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To: exmarine
(yet, iroinically - you supported a Chrsitian - McClintock!).

You have me confused with someone else- I don't live in California. If I had, I would have voted for Arnold. I prefer winning over ideological purity.

You have read the Mayflower Compact haven't you - it's the first official government document in America

Sure, but the Mayflower Compact is not a governing document of these United States.

1,709 posted on 10/27/2003 8:57:29 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: Modernman
The Constitution is, and the Constitution secures the rights laid out in the Declaration of Independence ("in order to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men"). The Declaration mentions God 4 times, and the Constitution uses the phrase "year of our Lord" (who is that? - Krishna?). John Adams said that our Constitution was written "for a moral and religious people and is inadequate for the government of any other." What did he mean? Then there's the Northwest Ordnance (1789) - have you read that? It's a Christian document dealing the regulation of the (then) northwest territories. Have you read it? Have you read any of the State Constitutions from the original 13 states - all have God in them - all. In fact, Judge Roy Moore cited Alabama's Constitution in his refusal to remove the 10 commandment display. You can deny history, but once the facts are brought to light, it becomes very very difficult, doesn't it?

I can just keep stating facts, and you can just keep denying them. However, I see no quotes from you or any evidence for your claims.

1,710 posted on 10/27/2003 9:07:52 AM PST by exmarine
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To: Modernman; TheAngryClam
"You have me confused with someone else-"

I think he got you and TheAngryClam confused. I think he was the one who said he lived in Mexifornia.
1,716 posted on 10/27/2003 9:40:32 AM PST by honeygrl (All of the above is JUST MY OPINION)
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