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To: Jim Robinson
If you have a workable plan for doing that via some other political party other than the Republican Party, I'm all ears. Please lay it on us.

I have a plan for doing it, that doesn't necessarily involve any political party at all.

Could be participated in by republicans, libertarians, the apolitical... hell even the d-word.

It involves old-fashioned political activism.

Not political partyism... but political activism.

Like the kind this website used to do.

Like full page ads in the Washington Times...

Fundamentalism of the Constitutional sort.

You have the potential to unite all these people in common purpose... but you keep dividing them with the GOP "us or them" mentality.

The prize is supposed to be a Limited Federal Constituional Republic that recognizes the chains the constitution places on it. Not a whole bunch of guys with a "R" on their team jersey, who tax and spend like drunken liberals.

Work for the prize.

112 posted on 10/20/2003 5:16:16 PM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
Like the kind this website used to do. Like full page ads in the Washington Times...

What exactly do you have in mind? And how is JimRob's support of the president undermining it?

122 posted on 10/20/2003 5:17:57 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: OWK
Not political partyism... but political activism.

You don't think there was any partisanship in that ad?

170 posted on 10/20/2003 5:25:25 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: OWK
Well said, OWK, well said.
182 posted on 10/20/2003 5:27:29 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: OWK
Sorry, you do not have a plan that will move 50,000,000 or more voters and that's what it takes. All you offer is smoke and mirrors (probably mostly smoke).
194 posted on 10/20/2003 5:29:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: OWK
BTW - You mentioned the Wash Times Ad. I guess you're not aware that little episode also ended up in a power play to see who would run the site. It was also the run up to Lucianne's backstabbing (Cinderella used the mail list from that endeavor to spam people about leaving FR for L.com).

There's much more to that story than anyone knows about.
214 posted on 10/20/2003 5:32:42 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: OWK

Rule by liberal judges since you can't get a fraction of the populace to support your ideology? How about holding a Million Doobies March? That would certainly get the sub-motivated on their feet!

257 posted on 10/20/2003 5:40:15 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: OWK
Spot on, as usual.
564 posted on 10/20/2003 7:00:55 PM PDT by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: OWK
but you keep dividing them with the GOP "us or them" mentality.

Interesting observation.

It's isn't "us vs. them" but rather "us vs. it". The sooner the masses realize that "it"(govt.) doesn't have their best interests at heart and an agenda of it's own, the sooner change will take place. And no sooner.

911 posted on 10/20/2003 10:47:55 PM PDT by budwiesest (Gladly: The cross-eyed bear.)
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To: OWK
Howdy old chum, I hope you are well. I see the differences are the same.

The political activism you call for must actualy result in something beyond self-congratualtions, and by wielding the power of party (a party transformed to a large part, but not a perfect part) we could actually have real reform.

I, also, long for the days when the fight against the factionalism of Clintonism united us all in common purpose, but time doesn't stand still. It made for an interesting and varied fellowship, didn't it?

In your call to "work for the prize" we must all examine ourselves. Lord knows, I've tried and I hope it sometimes shows. I posted long ago:

Rant cannot restore the Republic; Party can. Each of us should examine where we as individual actors in the restoration of constituional deliberative democracy are limited by ideology or craven pragmatism. Let us compete amongst ourselves by showing who can post their Battle Flag higher up the slope of the New Left's Little Round Top. Put down your swords when speaking to your brothers and sisters.
I will grant that you always make the effort to make the arguement, and for that I applaud your fairness. But I have always seen the prudent course to be the capture of the Republican Party along with a reinterpretation of its vision along conservative principles.

In that journey I never feel less than enriched by your contributions. The stew must have its bay leaf, I always say.

1,068 posted on 10/21/2003 11:38:10 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: OWK
"You have the potential to unite all these people in common purpose... but you keep dividing them with the GOP "us or them" mentality"

Please...spare us your usual liberal boobery...

"Away, and mock the time with fairest show; false face must hide what the false heart doth know" -- Macbeth

1,129 posted on 10/21/2003 8:19:46 PM PDT by Windsong
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