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I am a relative newbie ,long time lurker.I believe Bad Joe's character assassination was way over the line.There is such a thing as honest disagreement without this level of bile.(they didn't sound like helpful hints to me).

Seems everyone complaining bitterly wants Jim to abdicate and turn over running FR to them.Thus FR could reach the heights,fulfill its promise,be as good as it once was,etc.

I saw no character shining through in the BadJoe diatribe.

I didn't see a character assasination being offered by Badjoe at all.

If his words are untrue, then show me where that is so.

If not, then perhaps rather than shoot the messenger, one might actually consider the message.

I know Badjoe.

He's a good man.

Is he pissed off?

Sure.

Did he lash out?

Sure.

Was he wrong?

If so... show me where.

I saw no character shining through in the BadJoe diatribe.

You won't find me defending BadJoe. BadJoe is just another in a long string of people who didn't get what they wanted out of FR and has reacted badly to this fact.

My point is, this all stems from a basic misunderstanding of what FR is about and for. It is NOT about furthering other people careers and agendas (read Nav, CAL, Clarity, etc), it is now about, and now for, Jim and his familiy and will ALWAYS be about that. It wasn't always that way.

"I am a relative newbie ,long time lurker.I believe Bad Joe's character assassination was way over the line.There is such a thing as honest disagreement without this level of bile.(they didn't sound like helpful hints to me)."

Listen Meg, you're "new" so you really don't know Joe.
He's a good guy, on our side, & his association with Robinson was something to admire, once.

I feel nothing but emptiness over this & am particularly grieved Joe felt compelled to do what he has.
I think Joe hurts, wants to mend things, & would just like some respect.

Nobody knows what really went on between the *principles* here, except them.
It's Joe's perception he got a raw deal; &, he set the record straight just as any one of us would under like circumstance.

"Seems everyone complaining bitterly wants Jim to abdicate and turn over running FR to them."

There seems to be a power struggle of sorts but that's really not all that unusual in venues whenever intelligent, ambitious people are brought together in close quarters.
High performance always comes with high expectations.

"I saw no character shining through in the BadJoe diatribe."

You're so wrong, MEG, & that's because you don't know Joe.
Easily happens if one thinks with their emotions & not their head, y'know.
Without knowing the full picture, one only gets half the story, at best.
I can say that without the need to "serve an indictment" on either man, too.

If I'm going to wish for anything in this matter, it'll be that JR & Joe forget their few differences & renew their many commonalities, & do so for friendship's sake.
If that happened?

...getting back to the once common goal now obscured, would be child's play.