The Hobbit Hole IV – The Road Goes Ever On…

[HairOfTheDog]

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

The Road Goes Ever On…

• First thread: New Zealander builds Hobbit hole
• Second thread: The New Hobbit Hole
• Third thread: The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads! (Congratulations, we filled it up!)

The Road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with eager feet,
Until it joins some larger way
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.

[Corin Stormhands]

spammich?

[Corin Stormhands]

spammich?

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

There are actually 35 people who have fewer posts on the thread, than you! ;)

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Ouch indeed... will they waive the fine if you take a driver's safety course? They do that in Texas for speeding tickets I know.

[Corin Stormhands]

Ouch indeed... will they waive the fine if you take a driver's safety course?

Not for speeding. They would reduce it from reckless driving to just speeding (which the officer already did, he clocked me at 20 miles over). But you still have to pay.

[Wneighbor]

I'm not much for sweets.

That's part of it. I just don't care for cookies or cake. I hope these ones are okay - cause I really don't want to eat one and see. But, I think I should - but I don't want to. I need a guinea pig. This is why it's silly for me to bake that stuff. Well, 'cept for the guys.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Well, nuts.

[Wneighbor]

My little unfortunate traffic citation of a couple weeks ago is costin' me $149...It's highway robbery! Literally!

Yes it is!!! 't's why I cave and put on the cruise control anymore. The cruise control is not a device to control the speed of the pickup mind you. It is a device to control the tendancies of the driver.

[Darksheare]

Samwise, one whole post for the whole week.
*chuckle*
Either vacationing, busy, or in hiding like myself.
But I'm not hiding so well, so I guess I'll quit for now, right?

[DollyCali]

Cat house photo.. LOVE IT...I have too many cats.. take in strays, neglects , abused (and that's just the men !) Ha.

I was FReeping at Cleveland Browns tailgate this weekend. Here is thread (for anyone interested in what elf's do on warm weekends)- yes, decided to be an elf :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1027675/posts

Tailgate was fun except the Browns did their usual "embarrass yourself & disappoint the fans"..

Should I invest in the EE? I have the CDs from both movies. I would not ask if money were no object IT VERY MUCH IS).. and am wondering after the third if there will be a delux huge set with all & lotsa extras..

[The Iguana]

And isn't there a hint somewhere of Gandalf reminding someone (Pippin?) of Denethor, or the other way around?

I wonder if the suggestion is that the disapproval/disappointment that Denethor had as Faramir's father had the effect of Faramir looking to Gandalf for that fatherly approval? And, when he learned it was with Gandalf's approval that the hobbits should go to Mordor with the ring, he made the choice to let them? Hmmm?

That's a bit of chicken-or-the-egg there.

Tolkien never really explains the full dynamics of the relationship between Denethor and his sons. I always had the impression that Denethor's dissatisfaction with Faramir probably predated his relationship with Gandalf. But that the latter helped fuel the animosity between them. Especially since the question of Gandalf was the chief source of disagreement between Denethor and Aragorn in his Thorongil disguise during the finals years of Ecthelion's reign.

What is interesting is the different take that Jackson (and his writers) have on these relationships. Jackson implies that Denethor likes Boromir better because they are so much alike. Tolkien says otherwise: Denethor "loved [Boromir] greatly: too much perhaps; and the more so because they were unlike."

But that is perhaps of a piece with other small character mutations undertaken by Jackson/Wash/Boyyens. Isildur is a conflicted man who comes to regret his decision not to destroy the Ring but is transformed in the film into a largely unsavory character consumed by it; King Theoden is eager to confront Saruman's army head-on but is persuaded by Gandalf to hole up in Helm's Deep where he at least stands a chance against the massive juggernaut - but in the film these outlooks are switched exactly, and not entirely convincingly; Aragorn as a man who clearly wishes to restore the monarchy of his House but doubts whether it can be achieved - but transformed by Jackson into a man hiding from his destiny, unsure he wants the prize at all, even afraid of it at times.

I doubt Tolkien would be entirely happy with all these changes. Though I have to say they are, I suppose, relatively small changes as screen adaptations of great works go. I've seen some that share almost nothing with their books save the title.

If you read Tolkien's letter shredding a horrid script that had been sent to him for review, you realize that it could have been, after all, far, far worse.

[2Jedismom]

Don't you have a dedicated small space for sentimental stuff

Well, I do...and it's getting pretty full! But the thing is, I really am trying to look at things objectively and to also think "How attached to this am I and could someone else receive a blessing from it?" In this case, although I love it, I think someone else should have it that needs it and can really use it.

Whenever I come to something like this...I always think of MEND. They are our local abortion alternative organization and I really want to support them.

[The Iguana]

There are actually 35 people who have fewer posts on the thread, than you! ;)

I feel better already!

[2Jedismom]

The house almost looks like we've moved out! LOL

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Oh! Well, Samwise kinda comes and goes, sometimes a lot of posts in a week and sometimes very few. Hard to predict!

[Darksheare]

Bounces through like myself?
Hmm..
Haven't met a fellow thread wanderer before.

[Prof Engineer]

I'm not sure about the EE. We haven't done it yet, but it sounds vey cool. An entire trilogy EE would be way cool, if it does happen.

Check out the Kitty Caption XXX thread in chat for more.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Hmm, what are your views on Tom Bombadil?

[The Iguana]

An entire trilogy EE would be way cool, if it does happen.

It probably will. Jackson is the kind of guy who is always tinkering; never satisfied.

But it may not come out right away. In May he begins work on "King Kong"; And in the meantime he will also have to finish up the EE of "Return of the King" for November release.

You may not see a true Trilogy EE with new material for a few years.

Let alone "The Hobbit."

[300winmag]

In this case, although I love it, I think someone else should have it that needs it and can really use it.

Compromise. Keep it, because it has such sentimental value. Buy something for the organization, and donate that.