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Dimensional Door - Freeople Thread 6

Posted on 07/30/2003 11:56:37 AM PDT by Mo1



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To: Mo1
I have only just begun...

I am my cousin's niece today. Hey, we lost power yesterday. Good thing we came back to the other house.

Later...gotta go figure when the other house gets power back and what to do.

Who am I? Where am I?

1,221 posted on 08/15/2003 7:27:45 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Whilst catpuppy roasts.............................................:-)
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To: sweetliberty
So....

How does that go again?

The call thing that is....and does it work on Northern ladies too?

What about darks? Does it work on darks?

:-)

1,222 posted on 08/15/2003 7:31:59 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Whilst catpuppy roasts.............................................:-)
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To: Canadian Outrage
*Yawn*

Another sunny day in the low eighties. The water is great, the wind is from the Southwest and warm.

No pics....no power down there.

Not to mention I'm my cousin's niece.

1,223 posted on 08/15/2003 7:36:14 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Whilst catpuppy roasts.............................................:-)
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To: Mo1; westmex; lodwick; grannie9; null and void
It's tough getting old:

Two elderly women were eating breakfast in a restaurant one morning.
Ethel noticed something funny about Mabel's ear and she said, "Mabel, did you know you've got a suppository in your left ear?"

Mabel answered, "I have? A suppository?" She pulled it out &stared at it.
Then she said, "Ethel, I'm glad you saw this thing. Now I think I know where my hearing aid is."

1,224 posted on 08/15/2003 7:37:22 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: Cuttnhorse
LOL .. getting out sucks
1,225 posted on 08/15/2003 7:52:08 AM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: Lakeshark
Good thing you had another place to go ... Some in NY weren't so lucky

People lay stranded in the entrance to Grand Central Station around 3 a.m. in the morning during a power outage in New York August 15, 2003. More than 12 hours after the biggest North American power outage in history left huge swaths of the Northeast in sweltering darkness, much of New York and its suburbs were still without electricity. REUTERS/Shannon Stapleton

1,226 posted on 08/15/2003 7:54:58 AM PDT by Mo1 (I have nothing to add .. just want to see if I make the cut and paste ;0))
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To: Mo1
The city came around and put up street lights on all the adjacent streets, and since I am on a narrow block, I have 3 streets adjacent, and 7 street lamps cast shadows in my yard.

One of my favorite relaxations is to lay on the grass and gaze at the stars (since we are rather high) and that has been wiped out. When this fence is done I'll get that back.

I've learned that linseed oil has to be applied until it doesn't soak in anymore, so that is the step of the moment. 3 of linseed, then paint.
1,227 posted on 08/15/2003 8:06:28 AM PDT by Sundog (Cheers.)
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To: westmex
Westy,

I might have missed something, when did you say is the best time to see Ruby Beach, as in the time of year when rainfall is the least?
1,228 posted on 08/15/2003 8:07:20 AM PDT by Sundog (Cheers.)
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To: Mo1
Did you just wake up or have you been up all night?

Am I awake? Is this thing on? Am I logged on???

1,229 posted on 08/15/2003 8:11:26 AM PDT by null and void (Pray for the chocolate...)
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To: Darksheare
Good morning all.

This is for you Darks..;)


1,230 posted on 08/15/2003 8:16:51 AM PDT by grannie9 (where is the Pup?)
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To: null and void; Mo1; Sundog
Other than Darks, is anyone else affected by the power outage?
1,231 posted on 08/15/2003 8:19:29 AM PDT by grannie9 (where is the Pup?)
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To: Cuttnhorse
OMG.. that's a riot..lol..
1,232 posted on 08/15/2003 8:20:56 AM PDT by grannie9 (where is the Pup?)
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To: .38sw
You're lucky.. We've had the hot nights and way to much rain..

Your garden sounds wonderful. Wishing you good eatin.. ;)
1,233 posted on 08/15/2003 8:23:15 AM PDT by grannie9 (where is the Pup?)
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To: grannie9
A B-17 Tale


Tech Central Station
12 August 2003

Piggyback Hero
by Ralph Kinney Bennett

Tomorrow morning they'll lay the remains of Glenn Rojohn to rest in the Peace Lutheran Cemetery in the little town of Greenock, Pa., just southeast of Pittsburgh. He was 81, and had been in the air conditioning and plumbing business in nearby McKeesport. If you had seen him on the street he would probably have looked to you like so many other graying, bespectacled old World War II veterans whose names appear so often now on obituary pages.

But like so many of them, though he seldom talked about it, he could have told you one hell of a story. He won the Distinguished Flying Cross and the Purple Heart all in one fell swoop in the skies over Germany on December 31, 1944.

Fell swoop indeed.

Capt. Glenn Rojohn, of the 8th Air Force's 100th Bomb Group, was flying his B-17G Flying Fortress bomber on a raid over Hamburg. His formation had braved heavy flak to drop their bombs, then turned 180 degrees to head out over the North Sea.

They had finally turned northwest, headed back to England, when they were jumped by German fighters at 22,000 feet. The Messerschmitt Me-109s pressed their attack so closely that Capt. Rojohn could see the faces of the German pilots.

He and other pilots fought to remain in formation so they could use each other's guns to defend the group. Rojohn saw a B-17 ahead of him burst into flames and slide sickeningly toward the earth. He gunned his ship forward to fill in the gap.

He felt a huge impact. The big bomber shuddered, felt suddenly very heavy and began losing altitude. Rojohn grasped almost immediately that he had collided with another plane. A B-17 below him, piloted by Lt. William G. McNab, had slammed the top of its fuselage into the bottom of Rojohn's. The top turret gun of McNab's plane was now locked in the belly of Rojohn's plane and the ball turret in the belly of Rojohn's had smashed through the top of McNab's. The two bombers were almost perfectly aligned - the tail of the lower plane was slightly to the left of Rojohn's tailpiece. They were stuck together, as a crewman later recalled, "like mating dragon flies."

No one will ever know exactly how it happened. Perhaps both pilots had moved instinctively to fill the same gap in formation. Perhaps McNab's plane had hit an air pocket.

Three of the engines on the bottom plane were still running, as were all four of Rojohn's. The fourth engine on the lower bomber was on fire and the flames were spreading to the rest of the aircraft. The two were losing altitude quickly. Rojohn tried several times to gun his engines and break free of the other plane. The two were inextricably locked together. Fearing a fire, Rojohn cuts his engines and rang the bailout bell. If his crew had any chance of parachuting, he had to keep the plane under control somehow.

The ball turret, hanging below the belly of the B-17, was considered by many to be a death trap - the worst station on the bomber. In this case, both ball turrets figured in a swift and terrible drama of life and death.

Staff Sgt. Edward L. Woodall, Jr., in the ball turret of the lower bomber, had felt the impact of the collision above him and saw shards of metal drop past him. Worse, he realized both electrical and hydraulic power was gone.

Remembering escape drills, he grabbed the handcrank, released the clutch and cranked the turret and its guns until they were straight down, then turned and climbed out the back of the turret up into the fuselage.

Once inside the plane's belly Woodall saw a chilling sight, the ball turret of the other bomber protruding through the top of the fuselage. In that turret, hopelessly trapped, was Staff Sgt. Joseph Russo. Several crewmembers on Rojohn's plane tried frantically to crank Russo's turret around so he could escape. But, jammed into the fuselage of the lower plane, the turret would not budge.

Aware of his plight, but possibly unaware that his voice was going out over the intercom of his plane, Sgt. Russo began reciting his Hail Marys.

Up in the cockpit, Capt. Rojohn and his co-pilot, 2nd Lt. William G. Leek, Jr., had propped their feet against the instrument panel so they could pull back on their controls with all their strength, trying to prevent their plane from going into a spinning dive that would prevent the crew from jumping out.

Capt. Rojohn motioned left and the two managed to wheel the grotesque, collision-born hybrid of a plane back toward the German coast. Leek felt like he was intruding on Sgt. Russo as his prayers crackled over the radio, so he pulled off his flying helmet with its earphones.

Rojohn, immediately grasping that crew could not exit from the bottom of his plane, ordered his top turret gunner and his radio operator, Tech Sgts. Orville Elkin and Edward G. Neuhaus, to make their way to the back of the fuselage and out the waist door behind the left wing.

Then he got his navigator, 2nd Lt. Robert Washington, and his bombardier, Sgt. James Shirley to follow them. As Rojohn and Leek somehow held the plane steady, these four men, as well as waist gunner Sgt. Roy Little and tail gunner Staff Sgt. Francis Chase were able to bail out.

Now the plane locked below them was aflame. Fire poured over Rojohn's left wing. He could feel the heat from the plane below and hear the sound of .50 caliber machinegun ammunition "cooking off" in the flames.

Capt. Rojohn ordered Lieut. Leek to bail out. Leek knew that without him helping keep the controls back, the plane would drop in a flaming spiral and the centrifugal force would prevent Rojohn from bailing. He refused the order.

Meanwhile, German soldiers and civilians on the ground that afternoon looked up in wonder. Some of them thought they were seeing a new Allied secret weapon - a strange eight-engined double bomber. But anti-aircraft gunners on the North Sea coastal island of Wangerooge had seen the collision. A German battery captain wrote in his logbook at 12:47 p.m.:

"Two fortresses collided in a formation in the NE. The planes flew hooked together and flew 20 miles south. The two planes were unable to fight anymore. The crash could be awaited so I stopped the firing at these two planes."

Suspended in his parachute in the cold December sky, Bob Washington watched with deadly fascination as the mated bombers, trailing black smoke, fell to earth about three miles away, their downward trip ending in an ugly boiling blossom of fire.

In the cockpit Rojohn and Leek held grimly to the controls trying to ride a falling rock. Leek tersely recalled, "The ground came up faster and faster. Praying was allowed. We gave it one last effort and slammed into the ground."

The McNab plane on the bottom exploded, vaulting the other B-17 upward and forward. It hit the ground and slid along until its left wing slammed through a wooden building and the smoldering mass of aluminum came to a stop.

Rojohn and Leek were still seated in their cockpit. The nose of the plane was relatively intact, but everything from the B-17's massive wings back was destroyed. They looked at each other incredulously. Neither was badly injured.

Movies have nothing on reality. Still perhaps in shock, Leek crawled out through a huge hole behind the cockpit, felt for the familiar pack in his uniform pocket and pulled out a cigarette. He placed it in his mouth and was about to light it. Then he noticed a young German soldier pointing a rifle at him. The soldier looked scared and annoyed. He grabbed the cigarette out of Leek's mouth and pointed down to the gasoline pouring out over the wing from a ruptured fuel tank.

Two of the six men who parachuted from Rojohn's plane did not survive the jump. But the other four and, amazingly, four men from the other bomber, including ball turret gunner Woodall, survived. All were taken prisoner. Several of them were interrogated at length by the Germans until they were satisfied that what had crashed was not a new American secret weapon.

Rojohn, typically, didn't talk much about his Distinguished Flying Cross. Of Leek, he said, "In all fairness to my co-pilot, he's the reason I'm alive today."

Like so many veterans, Rojohn got back to life unsentimentally after the war, marrying and raising a son and daughter. For many years, though, he tried to link back up with Leek, going through government records to try to track him down. It took him 40 years, but in 1986, he found the number of Leek's mother, in Washington State.

Yes, her son Bill was visiting from California. Would Rojohn like to speak with him? Two old men on a phone line, trying to pick up some familiar timbre of youth in each other's voice. One can imagine that first conversation between the two men who had shared that wild ride in the cockpit of a B-17.

A year later, the two were re-united at a reunion of the 100th Bomb Group in Long Beach, Calif. Bill Leek died the following year.

Glenn Rojohn was the last survivor of the remarkable piggyback flight. He was like thousands upon thousands of men -- soda jerks and lumberjacks, teachers and dentists, students and lawyers and service station attendants and store clerks and farm boys -- who in the prime of their lives went to war in World War II. They sometimes did incredible things, endured awful things, and for the most part most of them pretty much kept it to themselves and just faded back into the fabric of civilian life.

Capt. Glenn Rojohn, AAF, died last Saturday after a long siege of illness. But he apparently faced that final battle with the same grim aplomb he displayed that remarkable day over Germany so long ago. Let us be thankful for such men.
1,234 posted on 08/15/2003 8:36:58 AM PDT by null and void (Pray for the chocolate...)
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To: grannie9
Wonderful picture this morning Gran!

As I understand our electricity grids, there is the western one, the eastern one, and Texas...don't run and shout this from the roof-top - I heard it on some talk show yesterday.

Cheers everyone.
1,235 posted on 08/15/2003 8:55:55 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: null and void
Wonderful story Nully.. Thanks..


A friend on mine, now dead, was a photographer in that war and had to lay in the belly of those planes like that. The thought of that vulnerability always made me sick. It had to be one scary Momma to be hanging under the plane like that. Still gives me the shivers thinking of it.

That was some flight..wow..
1,236 posted on 08/15/2003 8:57:14 AM PDT by grannie9 (where is the Pup?)
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To: null and void
Thank you for that fantastic story - truth easily trumping fiction once more.
1,237 posted on 08/15/2003 9:00:40 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: Mo1
Sorry 'bout the late response to this.. had the power outage to deal with yesterday.
And before that, my machine puked and refused to operate properly.
I'm back up, with a few glitches, and can say this:

I can only speak for myself as well, and often wonder what goes on in her skull.
1,238 posted on 08/15/2003 9:01:26 AM PDT by Darksheare ("I sense something dark." No you don't!)
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To: Windshark; Darkchylde
Sis is currently comatose in her crypt, errr.. room.
She will be asssuming pseudo-animation in a few, but that varies.

*(She's gonna kill me for this)*
1,239 posted on 08/15/2003 9:02:41 AM PDT by Darksheare ("I sense something dark." No you don't!)
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To: grannie9
Pretty.
1,240 posted on 08/15/2003 9:06:05 AM PDT by Darksheare ("I sense something dark." No you don't!)
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