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The Guild 2-15-2003 We are not Sodom and Gomorrah
USA Today ^ | 2-15-2003 | Jayne Clark

Posted on 02/15/2003 7:35:59 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:40:22 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

For more than a decade, Cancun, Mexico, has been party central for the boozed, be-thonged and besotted boys and girls of spring break. But this year, the drink-till-you-drop college crowd will find less-indulgent hosts.

A majority of the Caribbean resort's hotels, bars and clubs that cater to the student trade have signed a ''civility agreement'' to enforce laws that in past years often were ignored, officials say. Among them are bans on underage drinking and public nudity.


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To: Timeout; MadelineZapeezda; Teacup; BigWaveBetty; All
Good morning from the snow drifts of W.Va. We ended up with about 18" (I say "ended" hopefully, although they say we still might get a couple more inches today). Even if our streets get plowed, I'm not sure we can get out of the garage. In any event, it's quite a spectacular scene.

MZ, did you get as much snow? We spoke to my f-i-l last night, and he indicated your town wasn't quite as buried as ours, although he may just have been confused.

Other news, from NY Post:

CHELSEA Clinton may be allowed to traipse all over Europe, but Lauren Bush has been told to stay home. According to New York magazine, the White House told the First Niece she could not spend June studying in London or walk the runway in several couture shows due to security concerns. With war looming, the Secret Service has deemed Europe too dangerous. Instead, the beautiful Bush may end up taking acting lessons in New York and spending time in the Hamptons with her mom, Sharon.

141 posted on 02/17/2003 6:49:10 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; ewing
Mariah's been turning up just about everywhere you look. I practically sprained my finger changing the channel. (Why do today's singers try to sound like a cat with its tail caught in a mop wringer?)
142 posted on 02/17/2003 6:52:58 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs; *The GUILD

Patriotic stuff & ideas here

Good President's Day guys.


143 posted on 02/17/2003 7:04:35 AM PST by lodwick (Plan as if you'll live forever, live as though today's the last. No regrets.)
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To: mountaineer; Teacup; All
Good Morning! Hey, quit hogging all that snow up there! :-)

Yoko finally figures it all out after 70 years...

NEW YORK -- More than 30 years after the breakup of the Beatles and on the brink of her 70th birthday, Yoko Ono has become philosophical about the days when many Beatles fans hated her and blamed her for the band's demise.

John Lennon's widow says that over the decades she believes people have come to understand her and her place in the history of the Beatles better. told the New York Post for a story in Sunday's editions.

Ono, who turns 70 on Tuesday, is expected to be feted by more than 200 guests at a cocktail reception at a Manhattan restaurant.Even less exciting info...

144 posted on 02/17/2003 7:18:22 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (primates capitulards et tou-jours en quête de fromages.)
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To: lodwick
Excellent link, thanks!
145 posted on 02/17/2003 7:20:54 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (primates capitulards et tou-jours en quête de fromages.)
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The perky Katie is mum when the maverick talks about clinton. Surprize, surprize.

"When Arizona Sen. John McCain criticizes the White House, his comments usually receive wide coverage in the mainstream press. That is, at least when he criticizes the Bush White House," according to www.NewsMax.com.

"However, Sen. McCain's scathing denunciation of the Clinton administration's bungling of the North Korea nuclear crisis this [past] week has yet to appear anywhere in print," the Web site said.

"NBC 'Today' Show host Katie Couric asked the celebrated Republican maverick on Wednesday about the advice ex-President Clinton offered the day before, where Clinton urged the Bush administration to begin an 'intense, exceedingly high-level engagement' with Pyongyang and then offer 'a grand bargain' to resolve the crisis.

" 'My reaction,' said McCain, 'is that the greatest failure of the Clinton administration was the agreement they made with North Korea, which allowed them to reach the stage where there are today, where they have nuclear weapons.'

" 'We supported their regime,' he continued, 'with over a billion dollars and fuel while 2 million of their citizens starved to death [and] 200,000 of their people are in gulags reminiscent of Joseph Stalin.'

"McCain recommended that the U.S. not negotiate with North Korea, but instead begin intensive talks with China, South Korea, Japan and Russia to force Pyongyang to comply with the nuclear nonproliferation treaty."Link

146 posted on 02/17/2003 7:53:36 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (primates capitulards et tou-jours en quête de fromages.)
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To: BigWaveBetty
" 'We supported their regime,' he continued, 'with over a billion dollars and fuel while 2 million of their citizens starved to death [and] 200,000 of their people are in gulags reminiscent of Joseph Stalin.'

Good for McCain. The silence of the media elite is deafening. Funny how the anti-war types turn a blind eye to the brutal denial of basic human rights on the part of Saddam, Kim, et al., but they'll call Bush a butcher. Go figure.

147 posted on 02/17/2003 7:58:44 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty; *The GUILD

"Bonjour, you cheese-eatin' surrender-monkeys."

-Groundskeeper Willie

July, 1995


148 posted on 02/17/2003 8:51:16 AM PST by lodwick (Plan as if you'll live forever, live as though today's the last. No regrets.)
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To: mountaineer

149 posted on 02/17/2003 9:04:18 AM PST by lodwick (Plan as if you'll live forever, live as though today's the last. No regrets.)
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To: *The GUILD
France to send surrender advisors to Iraqi

150 posted on 02/17/2003 9:13:12 AM PST by lodwick (Plan as if you'll live forever, live as though today's the last. No regrets.)
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To: lodwick
Iraqi = Iraq

please
151 posted on 02/17/2003 9:14:27 AM PST by lodwick (Plan as if you'll live forever, live as though today's the last. No regrets.)
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To: lodwick
National Review's Rod Dreher was around Grand Central Station in New York on Saturday after the anti-war demonstration ended, and he did not like what he saw.

"I grant that there are morally serious people against the war. I just didn't see any of them today. This is what I saw: a child whose parents hung a poster around her neck that read: 'More candy and ice cream/less war and bigotry.' I'm not making that up.

"I also saw this slogan on a poster: 'The Iraqi people need our love, not our bombs.' Ooh yeah, and mean people are bad," Mr. Dreher writes in the Corner on the magazine's Web site.

But that was not the worst of it. "I also saw a woman carrying a poster that had an image of President Bush with a Hitler mustache drawn on.

"I nearly lost it over that. What kind of decent person would have anything to do with a movement that likened the president of the United States to a genocidal mass murderer?

"Just to see them walking the street is to put oneself in touch with one's inner Teamster."
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030217-85730710.htm


What do Nagasaki, Hiroshima and Baghdad have in common?

Nothing yet.
152 posted on 02/17/2003 9:15:36 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Just SOP for those clowns. I'm glad that some of the media is getting out the point that the protestors didn't bother to demand that Saddam disarm along with their calls for GWB to stop war.

McCain recommended that the U.S. not negotiate with North Korea, but instead begin intensive talks with China, South Korea, Japan and Russia to force Pyongyang to comply with the nuclear nonproliferation treaty."

I heard someone say on one of the Sun. talk shows that before clinton it wasn't practice to talk directly with Pyongyang about these matters. We apparently left it to S. Korea. Clinton and Halfbright changed all that for us.

Here's Krauthammer's take on clinton's legacy for anyone who missed it.

Bracing for the Apocolypse

153 posted on 02/17/2003 9:44:20 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (primates capitulards et tou-jours en quête de fromages.)
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To: BigWaveBetty; mountaineer; *The GUILD

Cajun fried frog legs for lunch anyone?


154 posted on 02/17/2003 10:14:47 AM PST by lodwick (Plan as if you'll live forever, live as though today's the last. No regrets.)
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Don't these "leaders" understand how stupid they look when they demand President Bush seek peace with Iraq?

In an impromptu news conference Sunday, Mexican President Vicente Fox (news - web sites) said he spoke by phone with both Blair and Bush and asked them to avoid "unilateral" action against Iraq. He said he spoke with Blair early Sunday, and with Bush "several days ago."[Uh, you dialed the wrong number idiot, shoulda been calling Saddam]

"The pressure is strong," he told reporters. "There is a lot of urgency to solve this quickly, before it turns into a war."

Fox said he will also try to persuade Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar to support peace. The Spanish leader is scheduled to meet with Fox this week before traveling to Texas to hold talks with Bush.

Within the European Union (news - web sites), Spain is one of the staunchest supporters of Bush's hard-line stance against Iraq, despite strong public and political opposition at home.

Fox, whose country is a member of the U.N. Security Council, said he believed Iraq could be disarmed without war.

"This is what we are working for: A solution together, a solution between all to avoid war and also to assure an end to terrorism," he said.

The Mexican leader has been a vocal opponent of military action against Iraq, calling world leaders around the globe in an effort to find a resolution to the conflict.

When asked what Mexico was doing to prepare for a possible war, Fox said the government was ready for "any scenario," adding that "no one should worry here."

"But now, the important thing is Mexico's voice, the moral authority of Mexico being heard," he said. Link

155 posted on 02/17/2003 10:19:16 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (primates capitulards et tou-jours en quête de fromages.)
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To: lodwick
"Eet ees important to be haughty and insufferable when surrendering," said General Philippe de Peepee, the Commanding Officer of the Surrender Battalion, who has personally surrendered in over 200 battles going back to Dien Bien Phu in 1954. "We French are ze world masters at surrendering, n'est ce pas, not like you arrogant Americans who never surrender. Ha, I spit on your filthy American victories."

LOL!

I'll take some Cajun frog legs when they run out of chicken. :-)

156 posted on 02/17/2003 10:23:39 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (primates capitulards et tou-jours en quête de fromages.)
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To: mountaineer
We 'only' got about 10" here in the s(h)uma, down by the picnic grounds. Someone up on the hill said he has well over a foot. The huge trees surrounding our home thankfully offer us some shelter. Hoping our cousin comes in his truck to shovel.

I have my kids cleaning the leaves of my artificial ficus tree and sorting the bag of all the missing socks. They are moaning..... I think they'd prefer to be in school!!!!!!!

157 posted on 02/17/2003 10:25:21 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda
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Anti-war demonstrators stand on the far side of the street while a supporter of President Bush's policies marches past during a rally at the Colorado state Capitol in Denver, Sunday, Feb. 16, 2003. (AP Photo/Jack Dempsey)

Go get 'em girl!

Look at the dork with the Alfred P. Newman (?) sign... everyone else is dressed in at least a coat, loaded with brains is in a short sleeve shirt.

158 posted on 02/17/2003 10:35:15 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (primates capitulards et tou-jours en quête de fromages.)
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To: BigWaveBetty; MadelineZapeezda
Pobre Vicente, doesn't understand the meaning of the word "unilateral." At least 17 nations are with the U.S. - does that sound unilateral to anyone here?

MZ - it really isn't too bad here. We dug out part of the driveway, and Mr. M was able to take the evil SUV 4WD to work. Of course, I'm stranded here (there's no way the other car will get out unless I shovel the whole thing, and my back is killing me), but at least it forced me to sit down and finish doing this year's taxes. I'm enjoying watching the neighbors' cats and dogs through the window as they deal with the snow.

159 posted on 02/17/2003 10:46:14 AM PST by mountaineer
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To avoid more anger at Jack and his CESM's I'll parse this statement like I would a clinton statement.

On Monday, French President Jacques Chirac said his country would oppose any effort to draft a new U.N. resolution to explicitly authorize war against Iraq at this time.

"There is no need for a second resolution today, which France would have no choice but to oppose," Chirac said as he arrived for a European Union (news - web sites) summit in Brussels, Belgium.

Bush administration plots next move in Saddam Hussein showdown AP

160 posted on 02/17/2003 10:52:31 AM PST by BigWaveBetty (primates capitulards et tou-jours en quête de fromages.)
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