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DUBOB 11- more tales from the Dark UnderBelly Of the Beast...
various links and websites | 01-31-03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 01/31/2003 5:07:21 PM PST by backhoe

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Senate bailout vote scheduled tomorrow at approx. 9pm Eastern; shamnesty tactics all over again

Moderator Ifill Also Has Stake In Veep Debate

IBD Editorials ^
 
 

Debate “moderator” in the tank for Obama (contact info for Commission on Presidential Debates)

Gwen Ifill Reacts to Sarah Palin's Acceptance Speech at RNC

AEI's Wallison Predicted Fannie in 1999 [Congress WAS Warned!]

How Voter Fury Stopped Bailout; Left-Right Combo By Opponents Put Plan on the Ropes

Congress: Please Stay Home

Free Market Economists Reject Bailout as Bad Policy that Could Prolong Slowdown

Wrecks, Lies and Barney Frank

Fred Thompson casts his vote. "Governor Palin’s every comment was scrutinized by the media and judged against what Jefferson or Lincoln might have said. Never mind that her counterpart, the 30-year-Washington-veteran Joe Biden, apparently is unaware that America relies upon coal for a lot of its electricity or that he recently referred to a top level U.S. official’s visit to Iran that never happened. That’s just Joe being Joe – protected by the sheer number of his gaffes and the fact that he is Barack Obama’s running mate."

ANOTHER UPDATE: Re-debunking the rape kit smear.

Heck, even Slate has shot that down.

Singing the new Gospel of the New Messiah;
 
 

READER RAYMOND ECKHARD writes that this is creepy. Yes. Roger Simon finds it disturbing, too. "It is the kind of exploitation of children that reminds me of Young Pioneer Camps I saw when visiting the Soviet Union in the Eighties."

UPDATE: "Daddy says if we sing well enough, we might get an extra flour ration!"

A Tale of Two Videos | The Sundries Shack on 9/30 @ 8:18 pm #

[...] now-famous “Burning Down the House” video has been pulled from YouTube after a copyright complaint from the Warner Music Group. Warner Music, which is owned

 
National Muslim Voter Registration Day 2008 on 9/29-10/1
 
DID BLACK AFRICANS really admire the U.S. more in the 1950s than today?
 

 
Aztlan.net: The disintegration of the USA
 
IN FRANCE rioting youths-of-no-particular-description have shot a policeman.
 
THE WAY THE STOCK MARKET AND THE DOLLAR WENT UP TODAY, if they don't do it soon they'll be confirmed as irrelevant: Senate to vote on rescue plan with added tax cut.
 

a spreadsheet from Kevin Aylward;

If the Treasury simply took the $700 Billion and started paying off taxpayer mortgages, they could pay off every mortgage in the country worth less than $75,000... Or put another way, $700 Billion could pay off well over half of all outstanding first mortgages in the entire country.

Do you really think they need this much money?

Posted by Kate at 7:15 AM | Comments (25)
 
Blame Where It's Due

This new McCain ad takes credit for McCain's efforts to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and puts blame for the current crisis on the Democrats, where it belongs:

It flashes by pretty fast, and I'm not sure how well the details will sink in with the average viewer. But on the whole it's effective. This issue should be a winner for McCain, but so far it apparently hasn't been.

To comment on this post, go here.

Posted by John at 10:29 AM | Permalink 
 

Blacks Forming a Rock-Solid Bloc Behind Obama

Yes, but it has nothing to do with race. < \sarcasm>
 
 

The Road to Serfdom revisited

 If you've never seen the cartoon version of "The Road to Serfdom", click here to read it. It's a classic from 1950 and well worth revisiting as we stand on the edge of economic catastrophe. The choice between reform and socialism has never been clearer, just as it was in 1952.

A colleague of mine today and I were talking about economists. I pointed her to this survey of economists compiled by Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert. You will note that the economists are 48% Democrats versus 17% Republicans. Not surprisingly, most economists support Obama.

 

(Do not miss this) $1 Million Scandal Latest To Hit ACORN

(Obama, Ayers, Alinsky, ACORN)

Obama's Terrorist Bill (Bill Ayers that is..) See video

The green bubble bursts--Amid the energy crisis, Dems losing environment high ground to GOP

 
Kook alert:

Cynthia McKinney says 5000 executed Katrina used as cover. (Unreal. Proof of Mental Illness.)

 

Palin will represent women, rural US

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COMING FROM SAMSUNG: An 8-Megapixel cameraphone. Nice, but I'd rather see better lenses.
 
FIVE ENGINEERING LESSONS from the new, reopened Minnesota I-35 bridge.
 
Sex and the Somme: How British soldiers found solace in the arms of local girls
 

MI6 secrets found on camera sold on eBay

Shortages at pump expected to diminish east of Texas

Gas Pipeline To Atlanta Running At 100 Percent Capacity [Colonial; 1-2 wks till supplies normal]

More than 60 percent of red-light camera violations tossed out


9,201 posted on 10/01/2008 3:37:12 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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Sarah Palin: "I Know What Americans Are Going Through"

YouTube pulls Obama 'Singing to Dear Leader' Video

 
 

 

9,202 posted on 10/01/2008 4:22:56 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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L.A. Times Microanalyzes Bible for Sarah Palin Hit Piece

Video: McCain/Palin Release Web Ad "Alaska's Political Circus"

VP Debate Moderator Gwen Ifill: In The Tank For Obama? (Videos & Poll Included

Voter Fraud - Governments say no. Video

How to Start the Healing Now

Facts about polls you might not have heard about

No One's Clean in This Mess

 In general I agree with Mr. Goldberg. I take exception to the title. Many of my fellow tax-payers and I are "clean" in this mess. We have worked hard our entire lives, paid our bills and taxes, purchased modest houses and paid or are paying them off. We wrote, called, emailed or senators and representatives telling them 'we don't want to eat this crap sandwich."...and offering ideas to fix the fundamental flaws in the system.

These ideas included 1) requiring all assets be listed on balance sheets marked to market or with the valuation method explicitly stated [transparent balance sheets] 2) a regulated exchange for credit derivative securities 3) re-institution of the pre-2004 12:1 limit on leverage within six months (1/6 of the difference each month) 4) forcing all insolvent firms into involuntary receivership 5) paying off only that which was explicitly federally-backed.

No, Mr. Goldberg, many of us are clean in this. I suspect you agree. Perhaps we should invest the pensions of the congress critters and their staffs to buy any toxic assets before any of my tax dollars are invested. Let them take the riskiest tranch and I'll seriously consider backing a lesser risk one. Our congress critter's "skin" in the game is the only way to insure appropriate oversight.

Senate Bailout Bill Now 451 pages

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9,203 posted on 10/01/2008 6:36:20 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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A New Opportunity for McCain (Hope you read this Sen McCain!)

McCain campaign did NOT know about Gwen Ifill’s book

Lowdown on ACORN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyYciV4Ccs8
 

Palin Comparison: Is the First Dude the new Hillary? (You won't believe it!)

 Like I’ve written a zillion times already, in a former life I was a reporter at “The Frontiersman” when Sarah Palin was a city council member. Not only that, but I’ve met Todd Palin, who spoke at our high school graduation last year. The Palins are good folks, both politically and personally.

It’s always interesting to see Alaska dissected by outsiders, like looking in a fun house mirror. Let’s just say that very little of what was written here describes reality for those us living here. That’s been typical of the past several weeks, though, and I’m getting used to it.

Palinophobia is on the march

This isn’t just any election. It’s the triumph or failure of liberalism.

That’s why I think Sarah is so dangerous to the left. She gives us something they thought they took from us.

Social engineering breaks the bank

McCain Will Support Earmark-Stuff "Crap Sandwich": Obama Me Too! (Out Of Touch Bipartisan Elite)

Letters Indicate Ayers' Role in Obama Appointment CAC

Must read: Ken Timmerman on Obama’s unreported campaign donations  Read more at hotair.com ...

 

"I Will Follow Him": Obama As My Personal Jesus

New polls showing Obama breaking away in key states

 This whole election is something to get concerned about.
McCain is handling the Messiah with kid gloves.

Email McCain. Tell him he has an obligation as our candidate to get off his duff and fight back.
To h*ll with bipartisian BS, to h*ll with PC, to h*ll with ‘conducting a respectful campaign’!
Respectful campaigning went out the window with Obama’s nasty, ‘lipstick on a pig’ and ‘You can wrap AN OLD FISH in a piece of paper called change. It’s still going to stink after eight years.’ Take off the gloves, McCain!
Hit the Marxist/Muslim hard with Ayers, Acorn, Violation of Logan Act, Campaigning for Odinga!!
MCCAIN WEBSITE
http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/

THE CONSERVATIVE ACTIVIST’S
GIANT E-MAIL LINKS PAGE!
http://www.conservativeusa.org/megalink.htm

Obama's "Universal" Service Plan - Part 1 (Indoctrination U) "Why can’t the libs see what Obama is? Why does the MSM think that they will be immune to the realignments he’ll bring?"

Camp Obama

Media Mum on Barney Frank's Fannie Mae Love Connection

Jittery Californians Buying Bullets And Safes

How do we bypass congress? (CNBC has some suggestions!)

Ifill Has Likened Conservatives to Terrorists, Truck Bombers, and Assassins (From 2004)

As we learned in the first debate, moderators can help shape the outcome. PBS host Jim Lehrer asked tough questions to President Bush about his record, but failed to do the same for John Kerry. He asked Kerry to list Bush's “colossal misjudgments,” and then to list the President's lies. But he never once asked Kerry about his 20-year Senate record. Will PBS’s Gwen Ifill do better in the running-mate debate? The evidence suggests here comes liberal moderator number two:

■ Don’t Bash Coke Dealers. “Why are people particularly outraged when people with last names like Cabrera, and people from India and Korea, and Indonesia and China, all of a sudden get, there just seems to be a lot of foreigner bashing as a subtext in some of the criticism.” — Then-NBC reporter Ifill on PBS’s Washington Week in Review, October 25, 1996, dismissing the Clinton campaign-money scandal, including DNC donor and cocaine smuggler Jorge Cabrera, arrested in a bust netting nearly three tons of cocaine. He had photos taken with Hillary and Al Gore.

■ Clinton’s Not Liberal Enough. “Is this welfare bill your great vulnerability on this subject? Your supporters, your critics, they all say that, perhaps, you are abandoning minorities and the poor.” — Ifill interviewing President Clinton on race relations, June 16, 1997 Today.

■ Campaign “Reform” Opponents Like Terrorists. “It was a bill that was doomed to die. The last time you heard people so eager to claim responsiblity for something like this, they were terrorists.” — Ifill on opponents of a campaign “reform” bill, Washington Week, Feb. 27, 1998.

■ Republican Assassins. “In the end it was a procedural assassination. Republicans drove up the cost of the bill by attaching unrelated amendments, then said it was too expensive.” — Ifill on Today, June 18, 1998.

■ Ken Starr’s “Truck Bomb.” “There's very little they can do about this, when someone drives, as one House Judiciary Committee member put this some weeks ago, a truck bomb up to the steps of the Capitol and just dumps it on them....it is in some ways, politically, a very violent action for Ken Starr to leave this on them weeks before an election when they're trying to decide how to deal with it.” — Ifill during live MSNBC coverage of the Starr Report arriving on Capitol Hill, September 9, 1998.

■ Red-Baiting Century. “After World War II, then we went through decades of Red-hunting, Red-baiting, fear of communists, and then all of a sudden the Berlin Wall, that symbol of everything that happened, fell.” — PBS host Ifill reviewing the century on Washington Week, December 31, 1999.

■ “Record High” Misery? “The unemployment rate is at record highs, and somehow he [Bush] says this is Congress's fault.” — PBS host Ifill somehow forgetting the Great Depression in describing 6.1 percent unemployment, Washington Week, May 2, 2003.

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 CHRC: Guille Expanding, Formalizing the Hallmarks of Hate
Here's my take on the real meanings.

1. The Powerful Menace Hallmark: the targeted group is portrayed as a powerful menace that is taking control of the major institutions in society and depriving other of their livelihoods, safety, freedom of speech and general well-being;

Unless you are the CHRC?


(2) The True Story Hallmark: the messages use true stories, news reports, pictures and reference from purportedly reputable sources to make negative generalizations about targeted group;

Who decides what a ‘reputable’ source is?


(3) The Predator Hallmark: the targeted group is portrayed as preying upon children, the aged, the vulnerable, etc.;

Except if it is the Catholic Church or Catholic priests.


(4) The Cause of Society's Problems Hallmark; the targeted group is blamed for the current problems in society and the world;

Unless they are white Christians.

(5) The Dangerous or Violent by Nature Hallmark: the targeted group is portrayed as dangerous or violent by nature;

Unless you are speaking of men in the context of male female relationships.


(6) The No Redeeming Qualities Hallmark: the messages convey the idea that members of the targeted group are devoid of any redeeming qualities and are innately evil;

Unless they are white Christians.

(7) The Banishment Hallmark: the messages communicate the idea that nothing but the banishment, segregation or eradication of this group of people will save others from the harm being done by this group;

Unless they are white Christian Conservatives, then talk of re-education camps is quite acceptable.


( 8 ) The Sub-human Hallmark: the targeted group is de-humanized through comparisons to and associations with animals, vermin, excrement, and other noxious substances;

Unless they are white Christians.



(9) The Inflammatory Language Hallmark: highly inflammatory and derogatory language is used in the messages to create a tone of extreme hatred and contempt;

Unless directed at white Christians.



(10) The Trivializing or Celebration of Past Tragedy Hallmark: the messages trivialize or celebrate past persecution or tragedy involving members of the targeted group;

Unless directed at white Christians of European (east and west) heritage.


(11) The Call to Violent Action Hallmark: calls to take violent action against the targeted group.

Unless you work for the CHRC, then the “pie” is the limit.
1. no free pass for anyone
2. absolute liability for webmasters
3. intent is no excuse
3. the truth is no defense
 

Breaking: New Jersey Assembly tries to make homeschooling laws worst in the country


9,204 posted on 10/01/2008 11:39:10 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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More media on Obama's Foreign, Illegal Contributions

Good to see Ken Timmerman over at Newsmax picked up on the Obama foreign contributions story I broke on July 31st. Timmerman does a good job, read it.
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He also picked up on Doodad and Good Will - broken July 31st here

Malkin mentions it (here) but doesn't mentionObama's Gaza contributions, which is odd.

Burt Powerline does :)

OBAMA LIED: "Palestinian" Campaign Contributions NEVER RETURNED OR REFUNDED

OBAMA'S CONTRIBUTIONS: I SEE FAKE PEOPLE ... OVER THE LIMIT

My piece over at American Thinker on Obama's Foreign Donations 

Obama's Foreign Donors: The media averts its eyes

By Pamela Geller

I have been researching, documenting and studying thousands upon thousands of Obama's campaign donations for the past month. Egregious abuse was immediately evident and I published the results of my ongoing investigation. Each subsequent post built a more damning case against Obama's illegal contribution activity.

The media took little notice of what I was substantiating. I went so far as to upload the documents so that anyone could do their own research.  I asked readers to download the documents and a number of folks pitched in.

Despite dropping the groundbreaking bombshell  story of "Palestinian" brothers from the Rafah refugee camp in Gaza who donated $33,000 to Obama's campaign, no big media picked up the story. Jihadis donating to Obama from Gaza? Could there be a bigger story?  Foreign donations are illegal, but this story was all  that and so much more. The "Palestinian" brothers were proud and vocal of their "love" for Obama. Their vocal support on behalf of "Palestinians"  spoke volumes to Obama's campaign.

And yet still no media.

But Obama pricked up his ears. He smelled trouble and while no media asked, he answered anyway. Sen. Obama's campaign immediately scrambled and contended they had returned the  $33,500 in illegal contributions from Palestinians in Hamas-controlled Gaza, despite the fact that records do not show that it was returned and the brothers said they have not received any money. Having gone through all of Obama's refunds redesignations etc, no refund was made to Osama, Hossam, or Edwan Monir in the Rafah refugee camp. And still no media. 

One of the Gazan brothers, Monir Edwan (identified here),  claimed he bought "Obama for President" T-shirts off Obama's website  and then sold the T-shirts in Gaza for a profit. All purchases on the Barack Obama website are considered contributions.

The Palestinians allegedly claimed "they were American citizens", so said Obama's people. They listed their address -- zip code 972 (ironically the area code for Israel) and they input "GA"the state abbreviation for Georgia (screen shot here) They actually lived in a Hamas controlled refugee camp.  So if Obama's people thought it was "Georgia" why did they ship the tee shirts to the correct address in Gaza?  Shipping overseas to a Gaza refugee camp is vastly different than the state next door.

Still no media. 

"Some young men even bought the T-shirts for 60 shekel ($17.29), which is a lot to spend in Gaza on a T-shirt, but that is how much Gazans like Obama," Edwan claimed in a follow up article in the conservative websiet WorldNetDaily.  And Hamas has publicly endorsed Obama.

And still no media.

Obama's campaign said the  Palestinian brothers in the Middle East made $33,000 in illegal donations to the campaign via the internet.

The donations came in between Sept. 20 and Dec. 6 and virtually all of the money, about $33,500, was returned by December 6. But the refunds weren't reported to the Federal Election Commission due to a technical error, campaign officials said.

If McCain had been involved with something so dark and nefarious, taking money from Islamic jihad, his candidacy would never withstand the media blowback.

But it was the son of hope, the agent of change, the one we have been waiting for , so the media yawned.

The jihad donations were hardly the only bloody red flags.  The first in my series of posts ran July 19th. The documents were so unwieldy, readers like John, Doc, and Cathy (who discovered Rafah) were working furiously to cross check our findings at the FEC site and then mine the data.

Obama's overseas (foreign) contributors are making multiple small donations, ostensibly in their own names, over a period of a few days, some under maximum donation allowances, but others are aggregating in excess of the maximums when all added up.   The countries and major cities from which contributions have been received France, Virgin Islands, Planegg, Vienna, Hague, Madrid, London, AE, IR, Geneva,Tokyo, Bangkok, Turin, Paris, Munich, Madrid, Roma, Zurich, Netherlands, Moscow, Ireland, Milan, Singapore, Bejing, Switzerland, Toronto, Vancouver, La Creche, Pak Chong, Dublin, Panama, Krabi, Berlin, Geneva, Buenos Aires, Prague, Nagoya, Budapest, Barcelona, Sweden, Taipei, Hong Kong, Rio de Janeiro, Sydney, Zurich, Ragusa, Amsterdam, Hamburg, Uganda, Mumbia, Nagoya, Tunis, Zacatecas, St, Croix, Mississauga, Laval, Nadi, Behchoko, Ragusa, DUBIA, Lima, Copenhagen, Quaama, Jeddah, Kabul, Cairo, Nassau(not the county on Long Island,lol), Luxembourg (Auchi's stomping grounds), etc,etc,etc,

Half a million dollars had been donated from overseas  by unidentified people  "not employed".

Digging deeper, all sorts of very bizarre activity jumped at us. Dr and JJ continued to break it down and pull data from various sources. We found  Rebecca Kurth contributed $3,137.38 to the Obama Campaign in 112 donations, including 34 separate donations recorded in one day

How about this gibberish donor on the 30th of April in 2008.

A donor named  Hbkjb, jkbkj

City: Jkbjnj Works for:  Kuman Bank (doesn't exist)

Occupation:  Balanon Jalalan Amount:  $1,077.23

or the donor Doodad, The # of transactions = 1,044

The $ contributed = $10,780.00

This Doodad character works for FDGFDGF and occupation is DFGFDG

The more questions we answered the more questions we discovered.

Thousands of  Obama's foreign donations ended in cents. The  "cents" did not make sense. And we compared McCain donation documentss  to Obama's. McCain's records are nothing like Obama's. McCain's are so clean. No cents, all even dollar amounts.  But Obama's contained thousands of strange, odd amounts -- evidence of foreign contributors, since Americans living overseas would almost uniformly be able to contribute dollars. Still no media.

Julia Gorin told me a funny story two months ago. Her husband's co-worker wanted to see what would happen if he tried giving a contribution to the Obama campaign via a credit card. He used his Macy's card. The system accepted it. He tried the same with McCain's campaign, and the transaction wouldn't go through.  Now, obviously, down the line, the Obama transaction would fail as well, but it goes to the point that there is no safety system in place -- it'll just accept any and all money, which helps explain how his campaign raised so much more money than everyone else's.

 


9,205 posted on 10/01/2008 12:17:18 PM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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Tuesday, September 30, 2008

CAPITALISM IS GOOD FOR THE SOUL-- IF YOU HAVE ONE
A lone voice crying out in the wilderness of government regulation, more government regulation and the creeping "social justice" utopian (i.e., socialist) fantasies of the so-called 'leaders' in Congress:
The US government is executing a coup d’etat of capitalism and I fear that we will pay the price for many years to come. Hank Paulson, Ben Bernanke and a host of others tell us the credit market is not working and the only way to get it working again is for the government to intervene. They claim this intervention is urgently needed and if we don’t act, the consequences are dire. Dire, as in New Depression dire. Have these supposed experts on capitalism forgotten how it really works?

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The “crisis” we face today is not a creation of the market. Government intervention over many years (but especially the last year) is what brought us to the point where we’ve placed our hopes for economic recovery on the good intentions of a Congress facing re-election in a few weeks.

[...]
We are not on the verge of a new depression. The housing bubble collapse in California, Florida and a few other states is not enough to bring down the entire banking system. Investors who made mistakes in these markets should be held responsible and those who navigated the Fed-distorted market should be rewarded for their wisdom and prudence. Enacting the Paulson plan will not allow that to happen and our economy will suffer for it in the long run. The Japanese tried to prop up failed banks in the aftermath of the bursting of their twin bubbles and the result was 15 years of stagnation. Why are we emulating a strategy that is a demonstrable failure? A better alternative would be to allow capitalism to work as it should and stop the interventions of the Fed in the money market. Trust capitalism. It works.


Capitalism always gets blamed for these crises, and indeed, markets have their ups and downs; as well as their cycles and psychology. But, it is always the government interference that makes the normal ups and downs catastrophic; or creates the hysteria that leads to panic and idiocy. It is the under-the-table deals and winks exchanged between dishonest, immoral businessmen and dishonest, immoral legisislators drunk on the power they wield over others that lead to the unwholesome greed and self-destructive deals; and it is underscored by a willingness--no, a desperate need-- to ignore reality and the long-term consequences/destructiveness of their own behavior.

And behind the scapegoating of capitalism for their own immoral behavior lies the unquestioned premise--held by leaders of both the left and the right--that capitalism is just so evil that it needs to be firmly 'controlled' and 'regulated'--as if it were a horrible monster just waiting to escape from its bonds and kill us all.

I cannot agree with this. The country I love was founded on the principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. These values do not guarantee happiness; they only allow you the freedom to pursue it; and then to face the consequences of your choices in that pursuit.

And choices and responsibility--or rather, the lack of it--are what this crisis is all about really.

We are facing the consequences of some very bad choices we have all been a participant in. We shouldn't --none of us--be 'bailed out', rescued or given a free pass for those choices.

So, as a reminder of this essential moral principle--that we are all of us responsible for the sorry state of our own lives; I am reprinting an old post on Capitalism that I think is relevant: Capitalism Is Good For The Soul....

Assuming you have one, that is.

The following post was written after I read a article denouncing materialism, particularly at Christmas:

One cannot escape noticing that the intellectual trend in the West is to continually bash capitalism, business, and free trade; while simultaneously enjoying the benefits of them. Especially at Christmastime.

Our academics rail against business. Our government constantly seeks to control it. Our youth are propagandized to death about its evils. Popular culture refrains from painting Islamofascists as the villians in movies out of political correctness, but does not hesitate to make big businessmen evil and grandiose. Religions are almost universal in denouncing the evils of money and spending it, even as they ask you to give them some.

One harmful result of this sorry situation is that there are few people--even among those who stalwartly defend the free market, who understand and appreciate the essential morality of capitalism.

The foundation of capitalism is human freedom in its most classical, liberal tradition.

Contrary to the many articles and books written about it through history by economists and scholars, capitalism's incredible production of wealth is only a side-effect that occurs when political freedom is present. It has been argued, and I agree, that both captialism and freedom themselves are prerequisites for moral behavior.

The moral case for capitalism is not taught at our universities, nor is it argued much in our culture; and certainly not in our churches. In fact it has been more or less universally accepted that systems such as communism and socialism are morally superior to capitalism--even though in practice such systems have led to the death and enslavement of millions; and to those unlucky enough not to die from them, those systems have led to the most horrible shrinking and wasting of the human soul. Not to mention the pathetic economic conditions of the people unfortunate enought to live in those countries have to deal with.

The truth is that not socialism, not communism, nor any kind of religious fundamentalism is even compatible with morality.

If one's actions are coerced by the state or religion or both; if human activity is legislated and regulated or ordained down to the last minute detail--particularly to the degree we see in other countries of the world (e.g., Cuba, China, Saudi Arabia, etc.),then how can it be argued that one's actions are moral? They are not voluntary, but coerced.

Morality, however, is a matter of choice, not mandate. One cannot hold a person responsible for actions that are coerced or forced from him. Morality can only exist when freedom of action exists. Moral actions in any field of human endeavor require freedom.

Conduct may only be thought of as moral or immoral when it is freely chosen by the individual. It is only then that the moral significance of the action can be assessed. It is only when we are free to act that we can exercise moral judgement.

Which brings us to a capitalist system. Only in a free economic system within a free political system is it possible to be moral, since true benevolence toward others, compassion, charity, and generosity cannot exist without freedom. Benevolence, generosity, charity, and compassion that are mandated by the state; or by a religion--on pain of death or other consequence; or by any regulations on behavior; or by force--are meaningless insofar as individual morality is concerned.

In a previous series of posts on Narcissism and Society, I stated:
We have seen that the development of a Cohesive Self is dependent on two separate, equal and parallel developmental lines that arise originally from the biological and psychological fusion of the Infant and Mother early in life. If each of these lines are not interrupted in their normal evolution the Infant will eventually become an Adult with both narcissistic poles adequately developed and be able to function in the world in a healthy way—both in his attitude toward his own physical and psychic self; and in his attitude toward other human beings.

In some ways, the rise of human civilization from the cave to the present day has resulted because of attempts through the Rule of Law and social controls to set limits on the unrestrained Grandiose Self. This is primarily due to the destructiveness of the Narcissistic Rage generally associated with that part of the Self.

Because of this, the Grandiose Self has received a bad reputation philosophically, morally, and politically. The natural development of Governments and Religions (which ultimately are an expression of the Idealized Parent Image/Omnipotent Other side of the Self)have all too often attempted to ruthlessly suppress the Grandiose Self--much to the detriment of the individual AND the success of the particular society or religion.

In fact, despite the obvious truth that governments, nations, and religions are in a much better position to wreak far more systemized misery and death on human populations, it is almost always the Grandiose Self that gets the blame. As Wretchard at The Belmont Club pointed out in a recent post, a review of the 20th century, for example, shows that all the "people's revolutions" supported by the Left and purportedly for the purpose of "freeing" large populations of people; resulted instead in enslaving them and increasing authoritarian rule.

Without a political or economic framework that is able to incorporate what we refer to as "human nature" into its calculations, all so-called "perfect" societies and ideologies will at best simply fail in the real world; and at worse cause untold human suffering. With the best of intentions (this is perhaps debatable), the social engineers of philosophy, political science, and economics have caused so much more slavery, misery and death on a grand scale--that the grandiose CEO's of the largest corporations can be considered mere pikers by comparison.

When we talk about the individual versus society; or the individual versus the state; or indeed any discussion of individual rights versus the rights of a group, we are also referring to the psychological tension between the two poles of the Self. Any political or economic system that expects to succeed in the real world will have to accommodate that tension, and find a way to optimally negotiate the needs of BOTH sides of the Self--that is, they will have to take into account human nature.

A perusal of any list of economic systems will demonstrate that ALMOST ALL OF THEM are relatively extreme expressions of the Idealized Parent Image/Omnipotent Object. Almost all emphasize the group, the community, the collective, the nation, the state, or god at the expense of the individual. Examples are numerous. Socialism and Communism; fascism and religious fundamentalism.

The major exception is Capitalism, where the individual and the individual's needs are emphasized over the the group.

All other economic systems except capitalism routinely mouth moral platitudes about ending poverty; bringing justice etc. etc. But, the only economic system that is capable of doing just that is the one constantly accused of causing poverty and injustice--capitalism.



Policy makers who pay lip service to fighting poverty would do well to grasp the link between economic freedom and prosperity. This year the Index finds that the freest economies have a per-capita income of $29,219, more than twice that of the "mostly free" at $12,839, and more than four times that of the "mostly unfree." Put simply, misery has a cure and its name is economic freedom.


The reason that systems such as socialism and communism don't work in the real world and are ultimately destructive of the individual self; and of the human soul, is that they remove moral action and judgement from the individual and place it in the collective. The individual is not permitted to make his/her own moral judgements, and must obey the mandates of the collective. This can only work when the individual is stripped of all freedom to act independently and fears reprisals for doing so.

Thus political freedom and economic freedom go hand in hand. Capitalism cannot exist for long inside an oppressive regime. Since it is more compatible with human nature than any other economic system, it will cause any totalitarian regime that permits it to some degree to last longer (China is a good example), but that can only be a temporary state. Without true political freedom, economic freedom cannot last and will either wither away slowly; or, alternatively cause individuals living under the oppression to demand more political freedom.

You can't be a "little bit" free because human nature will always demand more and more freedom once it has had a taste of it; until the despot who rules is finally deposed, or he totally crushes those who oppose him. In situations where the latter happens, you will always find the worse scenarios of poverty, oppression,misery, death, genocide and/or human degredation.

Likewise, true political freedom cannot last, and in the end is meaningless, where there is no economic freedom. Think for a minute about what money really is. Anti-capitalist intellectuals are rather fond of the phrase "money is the root of all evil", but, in truth, money is the most efficient method of allowing individuals to make moral judgements. The phrase "put your money where your mouth is" is actually a more meaningful insight for understanding the importance of money and its relationship to freedom.

This is, of course not to say that everyone will make good and/or moral decisions. Nor do all people necessarily spend or even earn their money wisely. They clearly don't. But that is neither here nor there. That is why political freedom demands a rule of law, and the protection of individual and property rights from other individuals and from the state.

Capitalism is good for the soul. It is the only system where the soul and the self can flourish, where individuals have a right to their own life and liberty, and can make the specific choices in the pursuit their own particular happiness. A system where every human exchange is a win-win situation.

[And let me add: it is also the only system where, to function optimally, the consequences of bad choices and decisions have to be faced. Instead, our bloated government and its self-styled intellectual elite have increasingly rewarded bad--even stupid-- behavior, and rescued companies and individuals who should never have been rescued involuntarily by their fellow citizens.]

So, this Christmas season, don't feel guilty about buying and giving gifts--either humble or extravagant-- for those you love. Don't agonize about the "reason for the season". Didn't the Three Wise Men bring riches to complement their adoration of the child? Didn't the little drummer boy sing his heart out? He gave the best within himself. And that is what capitalism and freedom together encourage.


Final note: I have no idea what will happen now that the artificial bubble that has surrounded the housing and credit markets has finally burst. Perhaps we will all get a really painful dose of reality. I have no problem with any voluntary and private efforts to help the most unfortunate out. But I balk at being forced to help out the very ones whose irrationality and frankly immoral behavior got us into this mess to begin with. They have been helping themselves to my work and income for far too long already. I also know that there are people who consider themselves kind and compassionate--and infinitely superior--who are still trying to keep reality at bay. Those are the people without real souls. They think wealth is just something you take from one person and give to another. They always want to redistribute it according to their whim; and it is their whim which is behind every so-called 'crisis' of capitalism.

Well, I trust the market to redistribute it--not this or that special interest. That's what works best for all of us in the long run.


9,206 posted on 10/01/2008 12:24:50 PM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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I absolutely agree with this:
 

So, Anchoress, what do you think of Palin, now?

I’ve had several - more than several, actually - emails from both left and right asking me what I think of Gov. Sarah Palin in her performances over the past weeks and what I think will happen tomorrow.

From the left the missives have been jeering. They remind me a little of Edward G. Robinson saying, “ya, yah, how do you like yer Moses, now?”

From the right, I get hand-wringing…”what do you think, will she pull it off???”

I have no idea how Palin will do at the debate because none of us have seen enough of her - unfiltered through media edits - in the past month to know her very well.

But I think McCain made a HUGE mistake in not simply letting her go out into the stream
right after the convention. He should have let her go - like a wild salmon - and allowed her to sink or swim on her own flippers and her own instincts. Instead, he plucked her out, put her in a tank and tried to refine her. And I hope he has not ruined her, or by shielding her destroyed the instincts that would have kept her alive out among the grizzlies.

A wild salmon is much tastier and feistier and more exotic than a farmed one. They’re also healthier fish, and healthier food. Now, Palin - tanked for a month - may not be the same wild, intriguing thing she was. The problem is, she won’t be the optimumly mellowed thing the McCain camp seems to have wanted - there wasn’t enough time for that.

So…she’s just going to be a fish out of water.

There. Have I used the fish metaphor to death?

Here’s another. In Palin, McCain picked a diamond in the rough. He then proceeded to try to overgrind and overpolish it, until it was too smooth, unnatural-seeming, and - because it no longer had ANY edge - lacking value. He has done NOTHING to release its intrinsic brilliance and glow.

Hmmmm….do I seem pessimistic about tomorrow night?

I’m not really. I have no idea what is going to happen. Palin may come out overprepped, overstimulated and too flat to do much but hurt herself, or she may surprise everyone and reveal a core strength that could not be destroyed in all of this over-handling from the right and poison from the left.

Given the utter hatred the press has for her, and the venom of the left, Palin will have to do ten times better than Biden, simply to get a grudging “well, she didn’t totally blow it.” And she’s going to have to do five times better than Biden to convince some on the right, as well.

So…this debate has now - thanks to some bad judgment on the part of the McCain camp, and the press’ unrelenting nastiness (yes, I know that the Boston Globe had a front page lie about the rape kits today, and I linked to it below!) - tomorrow is the hour for which Palin may have been meant to face her whole life.

I hope she’s up for it. And yes, I’ll pray for her good. Because so many people and deatheaters are directing such hate toward her, that it seems only fair to do so.

But my expectations are nil. I have NO idea what to expect. What she’s capable of and what she’ll deliver are two different things.


9,207 posted on 10/01/2008 1:23:26 PM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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Homeless Ohioans for Obama registering in droves; Plus: Meet Mr. “Good Will” and “Mr. Doodad Pro”

They're getting busted in Michigan, Florida and a couple other states but even that doesn't slow it down.

Socialism: The Senate Bailout Bill (That's What Our Bipartisan Elite Is Pushing For, Folks!)

Bailout with 'sweeteners' heads toward Senate win

We would do better with representatives selected randomly from phone books.

Vote them all out.

Obama Floats Social Security Tax Hike

Document: 1997 Obama And Ayers Speaking Together

'Have more babies and Muslims can take over the UK'

The Soviet Story

Show Highlight: They took an incredibly unpopular bill and sweetened it with pet projects. This bill is loaded with stuff that has nothing to do with the bailout, and promises the Treasury Secretary will be a magic man ensuring our economy against all bad things. No man can do what this bill promises! (Rush 24/7 Members: Listen Here)
» This bill started as three pages. It's now 451: See the PDF Here

The Drive-By Media buzzes about El Rushbo, crediting him with killing the socialist bailout bill. Rush Limbaugh Runs America. (Rush 24/7 Members: Listen Here)
» Investor's Business Daily: Should Congress Be "Perp-Walked"?

McCain won't "name names" in this historic economic scandal? It's important to name those who are to blame, not because they're all Democrats, but so we don't make the same mistakes again. The American people are fit to be tied over this, Senator. The Democrats will blame someone in the end: you! (Rush 24/7 Members: Listen Here)
» The American Thinker: It's Time for McCain to Name Names

Pearl of Wisdom: "America is waiting for a sheriff to clean up Washington. McCain says he's the guy, but how do we know that he will root out corruption if he will not call Barney Frank and Chris Dodd's resignation now? How do we know he'll stop mindless government spending if he won't vote against it now? The bailout bill could bail out McCain's campaign, but he's letting it be used as cover for the people responsible."

Depressing! A caller swallows the socialist hook. Folks, if the government has a stake in your home they'll tell you what you can do in it. You pay for it, or you don't own it.

NBC goes to the Hanoi Hilton to get the "real" story. McCain wasn't tortured at all, say communists! He just had "debates" with friends. (Rush 24/7 Members: Listen Here)

McCain refuses to criticize Gwen Ifill. So what if she led the feminist assault on Palin at the convention, and has a pro-Obama book coming out on Inauguration Day, right?

Rush's debate advice for Sarah Palin: Start off congratulating Gwen Ifill on her book, then go on offense about "conflicts of interest" in every answer -- like on Planned Parenthood and abortion. Follow Rush's advice, and the Drive-Bys will declare it a tie (which means a Republican won) and then say Biden really won.
» This is Experience? Senator Joe Biden After 9/11: "Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to Iran"

Sarah Palin Six-Pack vs. Biden the Doofus. Ignore the press attacks on Governor Palin and the sycophantic covering up for gaffe-a-minute Biden. Listen to the bites yourself. » Andy McCarthy at National Review: Biden's Foreign Policy Baggage

Obama says we need someone to "put out the fire" in the economy. Listen, you little squirrel: Republicans were screaming "Fire!" and your Democrats were saying, "We don't need any water! Everything's fine!" (Rush 24/7 Members: Listen Here)

Pearl of Wisdom: "We have a political party trying to create as much irresponsibility and lack of accountability as they can. They're destroying people's lives and their ambition. They're robbing them of the opportunity to use the freedom and the prosperity this country offers to make something of themselves. There's a war for the soul of America going on, and one side doesn't understand the gravity of it."

Gwen Ifill: Pro-Obama and Anti-Palin

Bombshell: Obama Neck Deep in Breaking Campaign Finance Scandal

We need to get a clue folks. Obama could be caught on tape doing exactly what is alleged here and the Drive By Media will ignore.

9,208 posted on 10/01/2008 4:19:40 PM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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Palin's Strengths Rooted in Alaska (It's actually POSITIVE!!)

Sarah Palin and the Experience Factor

The Gwen Ifill Scandal and the Obama Democrats Pattern of Contempt

LOU DOBBS exposes OHIO Democrat SOS Jenifer Brunner issues directive to promote vote fraud

Obama’s Gift to America (125,000 new abortions each year. )

BECAUSE CONGRESS CAN'T KEEP ITS FOCUS ON THE NATION'S WELFARE: The bailout bill -- once three pages long -- is now the length of a novel and larded with "sweeteners."

If McCain were smart, he'd be running against Congress in general, and Pelosi and Reid in particular.

FROM ERIC POSNER, some very interesting thoughts on the political psychology of crisis. With an interesting followup post here.

Memo to the House: Vote "No"

I said on Monday that if I were in the House, I would vote, reluctantly, for the bailout package as negotiated by the Republican leadership over the weekend. This was based on the many warnings from economists and others across the political spectrum to the effect that failure to enact the measure would result in potentially disastrous consequences for the economy.

I've changed my mind. The bill failed in the House on Monday, and the sky didn't fall. Those who predicted doom are a bit like the cartoon characters who don white robes and climb mountains carrying signs that say "the world will end tonight." They feel silly when the sun comes up the next morning.

There are two separate issues here, and two separate crises. The first crisis afflicts those banks and other institutions who invested too heavily in mortgage-backed securities that turned out to be worth less than they thought, or, in some cases, to be simply incomprehensible. These institutions stand to lose money and would prefer that the taxpayers lose it instead.

The second crisis is the one that policy makers legitimately need to address. Mortgage-backed securities of dubious value have spread so widely through the financial system that they have become a drag on credit generally. We are experiencing a liquidity crisis in which banks find it increasingly difficult to borrow from one another and credit generally is drying up. This is a world-wide phenomenon, not limited to the U.S...

Members of the House should vote "No" tomorrow.

PAUL adds: I'm not really sure how House members should vote -- the issues here are complex and well beyond my expertise. However, I don't believe that House members should be influenced by how the stock market did yesterday and today or whether "the sky fell" this week.

Posted by John at 9:37 PM | Permalink 
 

John Gray at the Globe and Mail argues that if the end of the 20th century saw the fall of the USSR, the first decade of the 21st century has seen the fall of the USA.

Our gaze might be on the markets melting down, but the upheaval we are experiencing is more than a financial crisis, however large. Here is a historic geopolitical shift, in which the balance of power is being altered irrevocably. The era of U.S. global leadership, reaching back to the Second World War, is over.

You can see it in the way the United States’ dominion has slipped away in its own backyard, with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez taunting and ridiculing the superpower with impunity. Yet the setback of U.S. standing at the global level is even more striking. With the nationalization of crucial parts of the financial system, the U.S. free-market creed has self-destructed while countries that retained overall control of markets have been vindicated.

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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=658_1222431921
Here are the notes from the video

http://www.rc4systems.net/Downloads/Docs/CRA-Notes-27Sep2008.pdf

From Freeper hiredhand

I took notes on this video and left them HERE.
 

Four Sources of Alternative Funds (Businesses/Start-ups)

US: What We Can Learn From Chile's Financial Crisis ( How they recovered and prospered )

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The Vanishing President...

We had such high hopes in 2000

2004...

...and, then:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1849470/posts?page=367#367

“I didn’t leave the GOP, the GOP left me.”

Don't you, EVER
 
ever
 
forget
 
this:
 
 
Islamo
 
 
"AN ENORMOUS CRIME" THE DEFINITIVE ACCOUNT OF AMERICAN POWS ABANDONED IN SOUTHEAST ASIA
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
 
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HIV Outbreak Began Decades Earlier Than Thought  The research, which is published in the current issue of Nature, found that HIV began spreading between 1884 and 1924
 
Guns’ll get you through times of no money better than money’ll get you through times of no guns.
 

Cynthia McKinney said what?

This could literally be news from an alternate universe.

Almost this exact scenario occurs in Harry Turtledove's alternate history The Victorious Opposition, the eighth installment of his Great War series.

A black character living in Georgia hears disturbing rumors that black prisoners are being massacred in Louisiana and their bodies dumped in swamps. The nominal source is an escaped prisoner who allegedly helped with this work. In the novel, the rumors turn out to be true.

Opening the door to assisted suicide


9,209 posted on 10/02/2008 3:39:39 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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Memo to McCain: Take the Gloves Off

Gwen Ifill’s book triggers impartiality questions (No qusetions, she's another MSM partisan hack)

America's Nervous Breakdown - And the World's

Obama people headed into PA to register voters

The Boston Globe Shamelessly Lies About Palin (The Day The Truth Died)

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A farewell to small arms?

 

Council advises homeowners to leave sheds open for thieves


9,210 posted on 10/02/2008 4:36:24 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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FoxNews (TV) : They just had a bit on Massive Voter Fraud going on in Ohio

I'M VOTING FOR SARAH...AND SO ARE A WHOLE LOT OF OTHERS
 

(1993) Assault on the mortgage lenders: in the name of racial justice, the Clintonites...


9,211 posted on 10/02/2008 5:05:25 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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Democracy Alliance Memo: "Educate Idiots" and Target Minorities

Obama: Messiah?

Florida Gop Meets In Secret As Obama Passes McCain In Polls

McCain On Fox TV: Life Isn't Fair (Barf Alert)

 He’d better toughen up.... and quick. The clock is ticking. He came out of the convention looking so good. he had the whole team pouring their hearts out for him — Palin, Thompson, Giuliani, Romney, etc. He’s squandering it all.

Palin not lock step with McCain on energy policy {Arctic drilling, climate change}


9,212 posted on 10/02/2008 6:04:35 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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Lou Dobbs, Alone in MSM, Reports on Ohio Early Voting Abuse

Hillary Supporters: Only You Can Stop the Voter Fraud

7 News Sites That Keep You Dialed In Every Day (FR in the News)

Bills Force Family Out Of Home, Into Tent (Soupline America Alert!)

 Right on cue, the local media starts trotting out heartwrenching stories on the homeless, just in time for the election.
No problem. The Senate will bail you out..

9,213 posted on 10/02/2008 6:29:46 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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MORE COVERAGE OF OHIO ELECTION FRAUD ISSUES, here and here. If nothing else, the whole thing is shaping up as a big commercial for John Fund's book, Stealing Elections. But, seriously, an electoral system that we can't trust is a major weakness. I've made this point before, but it bears repeating until, you know, somebody actually does something. We're already seeing the price of the political class's fecklessness in economic matters; we don't need another important system collapsing as the bills for that fecklessness come due.

We need a ballot-counting process we can trust -- electronic machines don't do it -- and a system for preventing voter fraud that's not a joke. Right now we have neither.

Corruption 101

Bailout Grants FDIC Unlimited Access To Funds From Treasury!

Wall Street to DC: "I'm cold. Throw another taxpayer on the fire!"

Report: Syria has restarted nuclear weapons program

"A little Socialism Won't Hurt" A Letter to My Son

 I'd probably have added:

If Obama and his little bit of socialism do get elected and his spending and tax plans go into effect, you're on your own for college. I'll be too busy paying for free health insurance for everyone and supporting the unproductive members of society that I just won't have the money necessary to turn you into another stupid, non-critical thinking liberal Democrat.

Love,
Dad

4 Weathermen terrorists declare support for Obama

$200,000,000 In Illegal Donations Alleged Against Obama Campaign

 

Why is FEC Keeping Lid on OBAMA SCANDAL?

THEFT (A Texas GOP Commercial on Biden's PlagiarismS)

 

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J.D. JOHANNES FOLLOWS UP on my post about supporting non-traditional media. Take some advice from a guy who's put it on the line to bring you news that the legacy media didn't want to.

Fourteen Centuries of War Against European Civilization

Mr. Clean actor House Peters Jr. dead at 92

The Risk of ePassports and RFID


9,214 posted on 10/02/2008 9:05:15 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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Democrats have already launched their "October surprise" (Freepers put the pieces together)

GOP: Get the lawyers ASSEMBLED

I never thought I would write a header like that. I despise the insertion of lawyers and courts into election processes, but Al Gore did create the precedent, and after reading this, I’m thinking if the GOP has any brains left (and that is debatable) they’ll start assembling an “army of lawyers” for this election day.

And this is why I am fasting, because this election has been co-opted by something dark that has too many tentacles, and too many mindless ant-workers, in too many places. McCain can never beat it back because he - like Bush, I’m sorry to say - is still trying to hold on to what America has always been, instead of dealing with what it has become. And that’s not going to work, this election. If the GOP does not have an army of lawyers ready to challenge state after state, they may as well shut up their shop. I’m not even sure I believe the financial “crisis,” anymore. A week ago I was willing to be convinced. Now? I’m not so sure.

Get this: The Ohio SecState - who has already made one move to discard GOP absentee ballots - is getting in between examiners and polling places. I said in 2004 that voter fraud would be rampant in ‘08, and here we see state governments doing all they can to assist in that fraud.

Yeah, that’s enough. Get the damned lawyers. And while you’re at it, find a few people at the Justice Department who would actually be willing to look into illegal campaign contributions accepted by the Obama campaign. Obama, you’ll remember, decided to forego public funding (after promising he’d go that route, as McCain has). Now, there are some very serious questions about foreign monies driving his campaign, and it seems the Justice Department

To be clear: Obama’s not required by law to identify contributions of less than $200. But given that (a) McCain does it voluntarily, (b) The One claims to be all about a new, transparent politics in Washington, and (c) his campaign is famously powered by small donors, it’s a tad curious that most of the names of people who’ve dropped a little north of $222 million on him in small contributions remain known only to him and his campaign.

Especially when some of the ones who have been identified look like this:

In a letter dated June 25, 2008, the FEC asked the Obama campaign to verify a series of $25 donations from a contributor identified as “Will, Good” from Austin, Texas.

Mr. Good Will listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You.”

A Newsmax analysis of the 1.4 million individual contributions in the latest master file for the Obama campaign discovered 1,000 separate entries for Mr. Good Will, most of them for $25.

In total, Mr. Good Will gave $17,375.

Following this and subsequent FEC requests, campaign records show that 330 contributions from Mr. Good Will were credited back to a credit card. But the most recent report, filed on Sept. 20, showed a net cumulative balance of $8,950 — still well over the $4,600 limit.

The fact that the campaign itself is reporting a cumulative balance in excess of the legal limit means they know, or should know, that they’ve got more money on hand than they’re supposed to have. And like McCarthy says, it’s only because “Good Will” was so stupid as to use the same phony identity for all of his donations that he crossed the $200 reporting threshold in the first place. A smart, determined fraudster would have used multiple identities.cannot be stirred to look into it.

There’s more: read on. Yes, it’s sickening. If you’re fasting, this will help destroy your appetite.

Allahpundit:

The Bush administration still DOES have an AG, does it not? Sheesh.

Fraud, fraud, fraud. Unreported in the MSM. Of course.

Hey, when you need to buy your own satellite channel, you need lots of bucks.

Kind of amazing to me that will all of this media help, and his own channel…the guy’s not ahead by 15 points.

According to the Simpsons, all fraud goes one way. Rightward, of course. But even the Simpsons gets it about Ohio. We need to look at Wisconsin and Missouri, too.

If you need more help fasting, here are interesting quotes on the financial “crisis”.


The Irascible Chef pinged back with Debate: Show Down Results

by TheAnchoress @ 12:38 pm. Filed under Barack Obama, Culture of Treason?, Dumb GOP moves, Election 2008, Free Speech?, John McCain, The Fourth Estate, The Perpetual Adolescents, Touch of evil

Stolen Thunder

The author, D.J. Drummond, is an accountant.  He analyzes the polls and comes up with some interesting conclusions.  Scroll down and read through the articles.  Hopefully people who are better at number-crunching than I am will find some food for thought.

Wednesday, October 01, 2008

The Secret Poll, October 1 Edition

I have been working through the poll numbers for quite a while now, sorting out valid patterns from the fakes. I held off posting the true state of things for a long time, for a number of reasons, but I notice that some on the Right have begun to lose hope and make sounds of giving up. So I will tell you plainly, that

We Are Winning

and can only fall in this election if you give up. It's been a long road and the enemy has been his usual foul self, with lies and smears and everything we have learned to expect from people who put power above any moral or honorable precepts. It's close, but here's where we have been, and where we are: Use the damn link, dammit!

Voter fraud alert: More thug thizzlin’ in Ohio

October 2, 2008 10:51 AM by Michelle Malkin84 Comments

 

I owe my career to Gwen Ifill!

October 2, 2008 01:19 PM by Michelle Malkin

a lot of phrases that beg to be defined and clarified;

“ideological madness”
“white girl fantasy”
“trot your slanted-eyed self out”
“willing negro and hispanic housemaids and boys”
“this wondrous moment in history”
“not fit to do her nails”

Wow. Just…wow.144 Comments

 
 
 Don't let banks lose your money - do it yourself

I'LL TAKE "FAMOUS DANISH PHILOSOPHERS" FOR $700 BILLION, ALEX: Roger Kimball on Kierkegaard, the “flight to safety,” and the future of capitalism.

I agree with this: "The current pandemonium on the Wall Streets of the world is not due to a failure of the free market. It is due to a failure to observe the rules of the free market." The government's role in this stuff reminds me not of Kierkegaard, but of Milton: "Chaos Umpire sits,. And by decision more imbroils the fray. By which he Reigns."

OBAMA SUPPORTS TOTAL HANDGUN BAN [Important for circulation in MI, OH, PA]

Stupid is as stupid does (When you mock Sarah Palin, you mock all of us who love her)

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A NEW AFGHANISTAN DISPATCH FROM MICHAEL YON. With lots of cool photos.

100 SKILLS EVERY MAN SHOULD KNOW: With instructional videos. Women, too!

"The Europe you know is changing."

Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders;

You have probably seen the landmarks. The Eiffel Tower and Trafalgar Square and Rome’s ancient buildings and maybe the canals of Amsterdam. They are still there. And they still look very much the same as they did a hundred years ago.

But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world, a world very few visitors see – and one that does not appear in your tourist guidebook. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration. All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighbourhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It’s the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corner. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighbourhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighbourhood by neighbourhood, city by city.

Posted by Kate at 10:03 AM | Comments (42)
"A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe."
 
"I'm reading Bruce Bawer's fine book about this very phenomenon, “While Europe Slept”.

Bruce Bawer wonders who's sleeping more deeply -- Europe or America.
A far from conservative American and Harvard educated homosexual, who felt that living with his partner in Europe would give him more freedom, Bawer moved there. Living in Holland and Norway changed his mind entirely. His detailed descriptions of the crass, juvenile, but potent anti-Americanism, smug socialism and political correctness, and the grovelling appeasement towards the anti-social, government funded, radical Muslim hordes is scary reading. "

Ballistics tracking urged to ID guns (D.C.)

Once again the microstamping company is trying to sell their product by government mandate because nobody would buy it otherwise. It's worthless "technology". Especially once brass is stamped multiple times after reloading. Firing pins often break and are easily replaced. It's a stupid idea that just raises the cost of manufacturing a firearm.

9,215 posted on 10/02/2008 12:52:44 PM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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Vespers Oct 02; The Guardian Angels

Today I have been literally bombarded with emails - so much so that I’ve read barely nothing in the news.

One emailed question I got several times today was “are you really praying and fasting? If you are, maybe I will too…”

Yes, I am. I’m praying and fasting “that wisdom and light be brought to guide our nation in this election period, and that Thy will be done…” whatever that ends up being. I was a little appalled to get one missive from a lady who said she was Christian but was clearly in high-hand-wringing mode. Her worry: what if I encourage others to pray and fast “but we lose! If we lose it will not be good witness to the power of God! It will say God is defeated!”

See all those exclamation points? Like I said, she’s hand-wringing.

My prayer is not for victory. It is for the very best outcome for the country, and for God’s will to be done. Our ways are not God’s way, nor our minds God’s mind. To us, the “best” outcome might seem obvious, but really, when you think about it, when does God ever do the “obvious” thing?

As I’ve written before: The Incarnation was not an “obvious” move:

…think about what God did, in a lonely cave on the outskirts of Bethlehem, when He condescended to enter into the pain and fear, the tumult and whirlwind of the world…when he “set his tent among us,” not merely “dwelling” among us as lofty king, but literally “with” us, with hunger, the capacity for injury and doubt…

God entered in, not with a cacophony of noise and a display of raw power, but as the humblest and most dependent of creatures: a baby, lying in a manger, a place for the feeding of animals. He, who became Food for the World, entered with silence, as though he had put his finger to the quivering mouth of a troubled, sobbing world and said…”ssshhhh…it is alright, I’ll keep you company…”

The Revelation of Christ as Messiah was nothing obvious. The Jews wanted a warrior. They got a Lamb.

So, I cannot hazard a guess as to this election, and whether our ultimate victory involves a loss or a win at the polls. Given the clear intent to fraud we’re seeing in some places, and the questionable finances and associations surrounding one campaign - all of which is unquestioned by the press and uninteresting to election regulators - I’m thinking we’re in the middle of a mystery, that this whole, odd, unpredictable and too-long election season has been run along one of those threads connecting things seen and unseen, and we are so disoriented today that we do not really know which outcome is the outcome pleasing to God, and meant - by Him - to draw us into Himself.

The Holy Spirit, of course, uses whatever He chooses, to bring things about. Who knows if we are meant to be shaken, soundly, in order to be roused from our complacency and the status quo?

The sense I have is that the status quo won’t do any longer. That we are stagnant, too deeply comfortable in too much of the muck and mud of materialism, and we’ve lost sight of what and who we are meant to cling to.

So, let us not worry. Let us not wring our hands. For the Christian, anyway, I believe we are in a moment where the rubber meets the road. How do you respond to that? With trust that no matter what things seem like, that “all things work for good and to the Glory of God” or with wringing hands, depression and doubt?

If you are doubting…if you are thinking that only electoral victory - as defined by the world - will be a validation of either the existence of God, or His Intent, then you need to hunker down into scripture and get out of your own head. Do you believe that Christ is the Son of God, or do you not? If you do, do you really think that this election is all there is, and that a loss here is somehow static, and works to nothing in God’s purpose?

To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under the heaven.

You either believe that, or you don’t.

“Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.”

You either believe it, or you don’t.

But if you’re calling yourself a Christian, and you’re not believing it, then question what you say you believe.

Yes, I am praying; yes I am fasting. I am not doing these things for a “victory.” I’m doing it because I am in training. I’m taking the long-view, and understanding that nothing ends or begins on November 5 that has not already ended and begun, because time is a construct.

Here’s Vespers for today If you are feeling anxious, I think the particular psalms and readings will be very helpful; they reinforce eternity and the illusion of time.

I’ve had several emails today reminding me that today is the feastday of the Holy Guardian Angels, and they’re taking this as a good sign for the debates tonight. If you’re looking for more consolation later on, here are the prayers before sleep for Thursday.

Just remember, Biden has a Guardian Angel, too, just like Palin. :-)

But you could ask your own GA for an assist to the Governor!

by TheAnchoress @ 4:43 pm. Filed under America, Culture of Life/Death, Election 2008, Faith, Liturgy of the Hours, Podcasts, Prayer, Sarah Palin

Americans on the Bailout: We're Pissed! [Excellent read]

The Political Nature of the Economic Crisis (Stratfor - excellent & long)

Natural gas for winter heating should be plentiful

Even Two-Year-Olds Are Pro-Life, Understand Abortion Destroys a Human Life


9,216 posted on 10/02/2008 3:49:56 PM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/02/photos-minnesota-lefts-political-tolerance/

Photos: Minnesota Left’s political tolerance

posted at 5:35 pm on October 2, 2008 by Ed Morrissey
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Tonight, as we prepare for our Debate Party tonight at Trocadero’s, one of the listeners for our radio station AM 1280 The Patriot has to prepare for some hard work cleaning his work van and personal car.  He made the mistake of thinking that he could have a bumper sticker showing his support of the station without thugs vandalizing his vehicles.  At least he remains in high spirits, as he e-mailed the station with the subject heading, “The Power of a Patriot Bumper Sticker”:

I thought you might find these photos interesting. I’ve attached photos of the way I found my van this morning. Evidently, leaving a car parked on the street with Patriot and McCain bumper stickers is intolerable to Obama supporters. They didn’t remove the sticker from my wife’s Volvo, though. However, it appears that someone in my neighborhood didn’t like it. Luckily, they didn’t use permanent spray paint, just some really annoying stuff that was hard to wash off.

I’ll look forward to the debate this evening.

They took their time in vandalizing the panel van:

 

An Obama Youth knife.'
Mellish: (jokingly) 'And now it's a moose skinner, right?'

 

Are Foreign Donations Powering the Obama Campaign?


9,217 posted on 10/02/2008 4:28:04 PM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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County rejects large number of invalid voter registrations (ACORN)

 Obama trained them well . So that is what Community Organizers do When they are not Brainwashing Children .

 

MORE COVERAGE OF OHIO ELECTION FRAUD ISSUES, here and here. If nothing else, the whole thing is shaping up as a big commercial for John Fund's book, Stealing Elections. But, seriously, an electoral system that we can't trust is a major weakness. I've made this point before, but it bears repeating until, you know, somebody actually does something. We're already seeing the price of the political class's fecklessness in economic matters; we don't need another important system collapsing as the bills for that fecklessness come due.

We need a ballot-counting process we can trust -- electronic machines don't do it -- and a system for preventing voter fraud that's not a joke. Right now we have neither.

Prevent Election Fraud -- Be a Precinct Officer (Vanity)

 

TRANSCRIPT OF VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE (CNN.COM)

Video:Full Debate: Palin Vs. Biden

 
 

 

Palin Biden debate reactions running thread

I thought both debaters helped their candidates a bit tonight, and I will always like Joe Biden, but I will call Palin the winner, first because she had to prove she is not the caricature being developed by the media, and she did that, but also because of the stunning consensus of the Frank Luntz audience in St. Louis, who declared her the hands-down winner and expressed a real connection. When I saw that audience response to Palin I thought: here in a nutshell is why the other side has worked so vociferously to destroy her, so quickly. What the folks in St. Louis were talking about tonight (and they said they now thought she was “qualified” to be president) is what Camille Paglia saw in Palin’s first, informal speech at her introduction. Sarah Palin unfiltered, is a force to be reckoned with. I don’t know if we’ll see the major shift in polling, that Luntz predicted, though.

And I was really glad to see Palin remark about how she is ill-served by those “media filters.” Heh. Think she reads this blog? I also thought Ifill was fine.

Okay I’m going to just keep adding to this thread as I find things, newest stuff first, so keep checking back. Also, if your prayer was answered tonight, don’t forget to say thank you.

Who won the Debate?
Gov. Sarah Palin
Sen. Joseph Biden

  
pollcode.com free polls

Newest posts first, below:


CLASSIC PROJECTION FROM THE LEFT:
Reuters wanted to check Palin’s ears for tiny radios…you mean…like the one Obama seems like he might have been wearing, here? Yes. Projection!

Gateway Pundit was at the after-debate rally and has tons of pics, of Palin, First Dude, the unhappy media and the empty Obama area.

Mark Levin says Palin must be smart as hell:She has been on the national scene for a little over a month, she has been campaigning everywhere, she has had to bone up on all kinds of national issues, and she has shown class throughout. Yeah…and she’s also post-partum!

Surber: The Moosehunter bagged another, but perhaps too late to save McCain. That’s what I’m thinking. She helped him tonight, but she helped herself more. She broke through the media filter. He also liked her “doggone it, Joe…”

Instapundit has the definitive round-up that puts mine to shame!

Vanderleun: Joe Biden and Obama want to reset mortgage principles? As in, “Your honor, I know I owe $490,000 on this $500,000 house I bought, but could you just knock it back to a round fifty-thousand bucks so I can get a handle on things? Thanks.” Now that’s what I call “adjusting your principles.” Even my half-asleep husband sat up and said, “What? That’s crazy talk!”

STACLU has Luntz footage and a good roundup. Apparently Dick Morris said, “Palin has connected in a way not seen since Reagan,” but it’s Morris, so there you go. I DO think it very telling that the Luntz audience responded so well to the idea of personal responsibility. I also thought that when Biden said, “people want help,” it would have been Palin’s chance to jump in and say, in a thoughtful way, “yes, people want help, but are you sure that they want so much of it from government, especially when the government can’t run any of its programs efficiently or effectively.” But that’s just me…

Woody’s place: He has a nice roundup, including Noonan on Tape and this observation: Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric and the rest of the MSM/DNC cabal can pose gotcha questions and selectively edit their footage to make you look bad, but they can’t do shit about live TV can they?

Rachel Lucas: I love her

Bookworm, writing at American Thinker: Barack is the bad boy you want to date to be daring, but would be stupid to marry. She has more here.

Andy McCarthy did not like Ifill and thought she was appalling.

Hmph. As we see in every election, the tolerant and compassionate folks are defacing automobiles that dare to show a GOP bumper-sticker and breaking into GOP campaign headquarters, again. They’re all about freedom of expression and fairness, you know.

Jim Geraghty: a tie goes to the moose hunter. “I could picture the woman on stage tonight leading in a crisis.”

Lorie Byrd enthuses: Palin Shock and Awe; she’s no Quayle. Lorie gives you some quotes from the talking heads, so you don’t have to flip the channels and listen to them!

Mere Rhetoric claims another Biden gaffe.

Hewitt approves of Sarah 2.0. I don’t think she’s 2.0. I just think McCain needed to let Palin be Palin, and he wasn’t doing that.

The Great Gerald Baker - who is increasingly the guy I go to when I want Hitchens, but without the bitter aftertaste: [Palin] seemed sure-footed and likeable, erasing many of the doubts that surrounded her and breathing at least a little hope to a fairly demoralised Republican camp…On Thursday night Mrs Palin won her debate by not losing it.

Hot Air: CBS & CNN (predictably) have polls calling Biden the winner. But I don’t know how credible those are since, On CNN, CBS and MSNBC the Democrat is always the winner and that’s been true for a couple of election cycles, now.

The Alaskan Orthodox Patriot (and his bagpipes) seems very pleased and also praises Ifill. Of her, my Li’l Bro Thom emailed and said: “Gwen Ifill should be anchoring CBS Evening News, not Couric!” Hey, it’s not like I didn’t try to tell Moonves a bunch of times. No one ever listens to my good advice, even when it’s free!

Jimmie Bise calls it the flurry in Missouri

Ann Althouse liveblogged; she hoped to see if Palin could acquit herself credibly and seems to feel she did that and more Take my advice, save the Althouse link for last and enjoy her comments with a nice cuppa tea or a glass of wine. I do think she has the best commenters around.

Roger L. Simon says big loser: MSM, and says Ifill gave Joe too many last words. Possibly.

Lorie Byrd reports that flipping the channels, even CNN resisted savaging Palin, although MSNBC tried. I couldn’t watch them. Matthews, Mitchell and Olbermann reminded me of sad, hungry jackals, who had been told a big fat carcass was theirs to tear into and then found themselves denied.

From the McCain Camp:
Biden’s 14 lies. I wonder why the McCain camp never sends me stuff. Possibly because of that time I called him a media whore. Man, they’re unforgiving. (Right, as if they even know who I am!) Which reminds me, I liked when Palin heard Biden give one of his Washingtonese replies and laughed, “Man, I’m glad I’m a Washington outsider…”

Steve at Wizbang says, here’s one of the lies Also here, here,

Gabriel Malor at Ace says Biden made an important gaffe on the Constitution and Article 1. Glenn Reynolds also says Biden made multiple constitutional errors.

Michelle Malkin is offering some people their words on a platter and saying “eat them.”

Riehl reads Sullivan so you don’t have to and says he is spinning it and seems sad.

Fausta watched the debate and cursed the rest of us with the Obama Channel


Flopping Aces » Blog Archive pinged back with Reactions To The VP Debate
Reaction To Sarah’s Performance « Blog Entry « Dr. Melissa Clouthier pinged back with Reaction To Sarah’s Performance « Blog Entry « Dr. Melissa Clouthier
SARAH ROCKS! By Michelle Malkin | Saint Sarah Palin pinged back with SARAH ROCKS! By Michelle Malkin | Saint Sarah Palin
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Hasta la vista, Quaylizers: Palin holds her own at the debate « ClobberBlog pinged back with Hasta la vista, Quaylizers: Palin holds her own at the debate « ClobberBlog
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Woody's Place tracked back with Palin Rocked The Debate...
Wizbang tracked back with WOW!! Palin Shock and Awe...

TWO HOURS AFTER THE DEBATE - IMPRESSIONS

Peggy Noonan on Gov. Sarah Palin's Debate Performance
 

Young, Vibrant Governor Palin KOs Old School Washington Liberal!

Palin defies critics and delivers punchy performance in debate against Biden

SARAH PALIN'S BIG NIGHT

Joe Biden's 14 lies tonight

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people's health insurance coverage -- they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska -- she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it's not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won't pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

FactChecking Biden-Palin Debate (Factcheck.org Misses Tons of Bidens Lies)

This Deserves It's Own Thread - Morris Just Said Palin has connected in a Way not Seen Since Reagan

Obama's Thought Police

NAZI YOUTH - OBAMA STYLE

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

This was the emblem of 'Obama Youth' before it gained notoriety and was scrubbed. The Obama File http://theobamafile.com/
 
 

Both Sides of the Financial Crisis [FR mentioned]

 
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Zimbabwe: New HHIZ Puts Inflation at 531 Billion Percent

Don't laugh, before you know it you may need one of these to buy a loaf of bread.

Wachovia faced a ‘silent' bank run

 

Regular back, mid-grade and premium gas still takes work to find (Knoxville TN)


9,218 posted on 10/03/2008 3:22:48 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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Government Is Too Big Not To Fail

So here we sit in the autumn of '08, almost 79 years to the day since the market crash of 1929, with the smell of panic again in the air. An alarmed president and Congress are flailing away, desperately trying to fix a financial crisis originally caused and made worse by government meddling. And with the election coming, the increasingly incongruous Barack Obama looms in the foreground.
As if Washington were not already doing too many things, almost all badly, and in the process doing far more harm than good, Mr. Obama wants to give government a vast array of additional assignments that it is not competent to handle and that the taxpayers cannot afford.
 

Fox and Friends/Luntz Recap (for those who missed it)

Offshore Drilling Ban


9,219 posted on 10/03/2008 4:57:18 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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Palin Has Everything that Counts

PALIN WINS BIG WITH A REAGAN-LIKE FLAIR

$700B and Not a Single Testimony From An Expert? Enough of this Cr*p!!

 Judge Napalitano( sp? ) on Fox Business last night said the bill was unconstitutional. He said it gave Paulson the power to take any asset, property, security and force you to sell it.

He said AIG was out and out stolen by the Federal government.

When asked why Hank Greenberg and share holders didn't sue, he said they might, but in most cases, if Paulson, or whoever is the Treasury Secretary, you will be too broke to ever sue, and it will take decades.

Welcome to command economy folks.

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I wonder how many realize that some 2.3 trillion dollars of taxpayer money went missing sometime prior to 9/11? On 9/10/01 Donald Rumsfeld testified that some 2.3 trillion dollars was missing. (it appears that Rummy was looking out for us) For obvious reasons the story was forgotten the next day.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml

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Union Lobbyist: 'I Broke The Law All The Time'

Unregulated Gun Shows Reduce Homicide

Few Women in Abuse Shelters are True Victims of Violence

The latest bizarre fashion accessory... 'tear' jewellery which hangs from your eyeball


9,220 posted on 10/03/2008 7:29:29 AM PDT by backhoe (For a Real Change, Vote Palin)
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