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To: TheSecularConservative
It looks to me like you are not allowing for all scenerios.

The example I gave about abused women was referring to two women (actually more) that I know personally.

Child sexual abuse can mess with a person's head in many ways. So can rape. To ban any kind of therapy addressing it, or acknowledgement of the possibility that these women are rejecting men rather than choosing women (and looking for a place to be loved and to belong) is cruelty with a selfish motive. And that's just one of many scenerios. I use it because I have seen it up-close and over a long period of time.

In other words, some gay activists so want to make the point that THEY can't and won't change, that they will sacrifice anyone else, no matter their personal situation, to achieve their goals. Regardless of your views on gay issues, that's wrong!

241 posted on 02/06/2003 1:48:16 PM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: RAT Patrol
No kidding. I share your examples having been close friends with many many gays. Secular conservative has this all figured out, however for all his examples of "lipstick lesbians", every ONE, every LAST ONE of the gays I knew had some kind of deep hurt in their early lives and every one could have benefitted from therapy. And where there was no hurt, as in the case of butch lesbians or effiminent men, I have no doubt there was a screw up with the hormone bath in the womb, something I believe that is also treatable.
Sadly we have seen the same kind of movement in mental conditions as what's happened in the gay movement. A complete denial that having a mental condition is abnormal. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually we find outright psychopaths saying this is just the way they are and they need no treatment and the psychology profession supporting such a view.
Homosexuals are as they always were. Deeply hurt. And now we have the treatment that could effectively treat so many of these deeply hurt people and we deny it to them because of our PC climate--it's a shame, a damn shame! And I'm saying this from a secular perspective to boot, not even getting into spiritual implication of practicing homosexual behavior.
246 posted on 02/06/2003 2:22:52 PM PST by glory
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