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imho your attitude towards fellow Christians -- some of whom will be blown up while on their knees having morning devotions -- is strange. They are the flesh and blodd of Jesus Christ.

You are in material breach of reason and fact to say that SDH kills more on weekends. Seveal hundred or hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's may die before we prevail. Maybe many many less. Maybe, if nukes start flying, more. SDH has NOT targeted the indigenous, and ancient, Christian population for destruction, like other Muslim nations have.

Your valid point is about the bomb, but it raises a double standard most Conservatives ignore. What makes NKor, South Africa, Pakistan, or India for that matter, any better than SDH when it comes to having nukes?? Surely if we justify war vs. Saddam for this reason, then we most not obfuscate and pretend that we should not launch a campaign to destroy Paki and NK and SAFrica (now that the commies are partly in control there) nuclear capability. Why do they get free entry into the nuclear club???? w/o threat of war?

well, i think i may go back to bed after all. I'll leave you happy with more doubleplusgood quotes from the Prez...What he says about freedom is historically and theologically wrong, but it does sound good. Freedom, both personal and national, can only come through fidelity to the Lord Jesus Christ. It is this so-called "puritan" "theocratic" truth that church leaders are shy to proclaim in an age of false and dangerous tolerance.

Americans are a free people, who know that freedom is the right of every person and the future of every nation. The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity.

We Americans have faith in ourselves — but not in ourselves alone.

We do not claim to know all the ways of Providence, yet we can trust in them, placing our confidence in the loving God behind all of life, and all of history.

Your valid point is about the bomb, but it raises a double standard most Conservatives ignore. What makes NKor, South Africa, Pakistan, or India for that matter, any better than SDH when it comes to having nukes?? Surely if we justify war vs. Saddam for this reason, then we most not obfuscate and pretend that we should not launch a campaign to destroy Paki and NK and SAFrica (now that the commies are partly in control there) nuclear capability. Why do they get free entry into the nuclear club???? w/o threat of war?

How about invading his neighbors, and trying to take over the resources of our suppliers? How about a history of actually USING the weapons, even for domestic control.

You're talking about a guy whose government tortures Olympica atheletes for not winning, and which sends videos to people that leave of the remaining members of their families being tortured and raped. Any other nations on this earth have "rapist" as an OFFICIAL position?

He lost a war. Why let him off the hook - especially since he exhibits continued misbehaviour?

...And a great deal of the problems in the Middle East grow stronger because others can see that one can successfully defy authority, even after conceding to it. Let him off the hook again, and you can expect a LOT of people to die. It is not just Iraq. Hussein merely makes Iraq a beacon for war throughout the region.

As for the number of dead, the only way that hundreds of thousands (of non-combatants) will die, is if he uses the weapons on his captive populace. Why are you arguing that we should let him retain the ability to do so at the time and place of his choosing? Submitting to blackmail does not gain one peace - not for long.

Oh, and South Africa underwent nuclear disarmament and was certified in short order, as they actually cooperated.