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To: stainlessbanner; 4ConservativeJustices; billbears
Check out post 733. Looks like ole Wlat's abandoned his position on the tariff issue! No, he didn't admit that he is wrong, but he did try to quietly shift his argument from what it used to be.

A few days ago, Wlat posted this remark about the tariff issue:

"Similarly, the speeches of Secessionist leaders made in late 1860 and early 1861 show almost total concentration on slavery issues, with little or no substantive discussion of current tariff issues." Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/828373/posts?page=465#465

Over the several days that followed between then and now, I bombarded him with the texts of speeches saying exactly what he denied to exist. Last night I provided a particularly interesting excerpt of a speech from Senator Robert Hunter of Virginia made before the senate in early 1861. It took up seven pages in the congressional globe and was devoted ENTIRELY to denouncing the Morrill tariff. Well, sure enough Wlat's story has changed on the tariff issue!

No longer is he spouting the fraud that southerners spoke nothing of it during secession. He's dropped that line and carefully shifted to a knew one, hoping nobody would notice (and in case Walt is reading this - you were noticed).

It gets better though. Check out his new line of argument. No longer is it "the tariff wasn't discussed as a cause for secession, and therefore was not a cause" The new line is "the tariff wasn't discussed during negotiations for reentry into the union, and therefore was not a cause." he apparently thinks it was as if the south was in a position to set terms for everything it wanted in 1865!!!

Needless to say, all southerners here should take joy tonight, cause this is the closest you will ever see Walt get to admitting he was wrong.

744 posted on 02/04/2003 7:38:47 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
The new line is "the tariff wasn't discussed during negotiations for reentry into the union, and therefore was not a cause." he apparently thinks it was as if the south was in a position to set terms for everything it wanted in 1865!!!

It ain't rocket science.

If tariffs were an issue before the war, they would figure in to the negotiations to end the war. Show that in the record.

Walt

753 posted on 02/05/2003 6:02:51 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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