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To: WhiskeyPapa
You ignored my reference to Alexander Stephens.

Much to the contrary, Walt. I pointed out your incorrect use of that speech, which discussed the pre-Morrill tariff rates. Those rates were replaced by the Morrill Act. The new rates adopted in of May 1860/February 1861 were the issue at hand - NOT the pre-Morrill rates that the confederates supported. Try again, Walt. And while your at it, why no response yet to the historical fraud and dishonesty I exposed in that Nevins quote you posted? Oh wait. I almost forgot. You do not acknowledge that which you do not want to hear.

642 posted on 02/02/2003 10:10:47 PM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
You ignored my reference to Alexander Stephens.

Much to the contrary, Walt. I pointed out your incorrect use of that speech, which discussed the pre-Morrill tariff rates.

Seven states published secession documents before the Morrill tariff was passed. Your position is just a bunch of lies.

Aleck Stephens wrote his brother on New Year's day 1861 that South Carolina was seceding from a tariff it helped to make.

Look at the timeline.

January 4 Alabama militia sieze the U.S. arsenal at Mt. Vernon, AL. Alabama has not yet seceded.

January 5 Alabama militia sieze Ft. Morgan and Ft. Gaines in Mobile Bay.

January 7 Florida militia sieze the Federal fort at St. Augustine. Florida has not yet seceded.

January 8 Florida militia attempting to sieze Ft. Barrancas are driven off by Federal troops.

January 9 South Carolina militia fire on US merchant vessel Star of the West, preventing reinforcement and resupply of Ft. Sumter garrison.

Mississippi secedes.

January 10 Louisiana militia sieze all Federal forts and arsenals in the state. Louisiana has not yet seceded.

Florida (belatedly) secedes. Federal troops abandon Ft. Barrancas.

North Carolina militia capture Ft. Johnson and Ft. Caswell. North Carolina has not yet seceded.

January 11 Alabama (belatedly) secedes.

January 12 Florida militia demands the surrender of Federal troops in Ft. Pickens. The demand is refused.

Mississippi fortifies Vicksburg and closes the Mississippi River to all traffic. Mississippi is the only state on the river, at this point, which has seceded.

January 19 Georgia secedes.

January 21 Mississippi militia sieze Ft. Massachussetts and Ship Island.

January 25 Georgia militia sieze the federal arsenal at Augusta. North Carolina calls for a referendum on secession.

January 26 Georgia militia sieze Ft. Jackson and Oglethorpe Barracks.

Louisiana (belatedly) secedes.

January 31 The U.S. Mint in New Orleans is siezed by Louisiana militia.

February 1 Texas submits an article of secession to popular referendum for February 23.

February 4 Delegates from the six seceded states meet in Montgomery to form the Confederate States of America.

February 9 Tennessee rejects secession in popular referendum by a large margin.

February 16 Texas militia sieze the federal arsenal at San Antonio. Texas has not yet seceded.

February 18 Texas militia besiege Federal army headquarters for Texas in San Antonio and force the surrender of over 3,000 troops. Texas has -still- not seceded.

Jefferson Davis inaugurated as President of the Confederacy.

February 21 The Confederate Provisional Congress orders Mississippi to end the blockade at Vicksburg.

February 23 Texas voters approve secession by a 75% majority, secession to take effect March 2 (Texas Independence Day).

February 28 North Carolina voters narrowly reject secession (by fewer than 1,000 votes).

The Morrill Tariff was signed on March 2.

The cause of the war was slavery, and the slavers made it plain.

Soon to be CSA congressman Lawrence Keitt, speaking in the South Carolina secession convention, said, "Our people have come to this on the question of slavery. I am willing, in that address to rest it upon that question. I think it is the great central point from which we are now proceeding, and I am not willing to divert the public attention from it."

Such comments were typical.

You discredit everything you say with your nonsense positions.

Keitt was later KIA fighting for the slave power.

Walt

647 posted on 02/03/2003 5:34:49 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa (To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men)
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