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No propaganda here bozo, self-determination WAS the bottom line. But then with you damnYankee knobheads, the truth was always the first casualty of war.

Like so many "Southern Gentlemen" on these boards, your first argument is to throw gratuitous insults. I suppose that makes you feel all manly knowing that one Reb can out insult any 10 Yanks, but this "damnYankee knobhead" is completely immune to your hyper-bluster. In fact, I find it comical.

Let's go back to the question. From primary sources, please give the class one example of "self-determination" from the 1860 secession crisis that did not revolve around the issue of slavery.

[Colt .45]

Okay ... how about the Free Trade zone the Southern States wanted to establish. That would've been a HUGE drain on the Northern merchants economy! And as far as the issue of slavery went, it wasn't a national issue, it was a domestic issue for the Southern States to decide. Lincoln was going to offer an amendment where slavery would be guaranteed in perpetuity to the Southern States! Lincoln wanted the revenue in the form of a protective tariff for the Northern merchants. He wanted it from the Southern States, and was NOT going to allow them a free trade zone. He kept Ft. Sumter as an insurance policy that he would've been able to collect tariffs from any foreign ships trading with the Confederate States. It was the key to Charleston Harbor.