[groanup]

"It seems the obvious escapes YOU:

"Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable, a most sacred right-a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can, may revolutionize, and make their own so much of the territory as they inhabit." Abraham Lincoln, 1848.

[Non-Sequitur]

Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.

They have the right to try. Your side just didn't try hard enough.

[mac_truck]

Well if you're saying that the southern slave powers attempted revolution in 1861, then I agree.

and thank you for quoting a credible source on the matter.