[HairOfTheDog]

I don't know what to think! - My mind hasn't been made up for me!

The arrow thing sounds hokey.... but on the scale of and lasting as long as the shield-boarding spectacle... In later viewings, it will make me laugh and shake my head at PJ the teenager at heart.

The action scenes and the way the battles and fighting take place aren't deal-breakers for me. I know that for whatever reason PJ felt that Sauron needed to be seen... that a "big flamin' eye" wasn't good enough. I don't know why the Witch King isn't a good enough substitute, but they didn't ask me.

What will make the movie for me is the stuff that I think will go well, the weddings and crowning, the suffering and crescendo of Frodo and Sam's journey, and the end at the Grey Havens...

So if there is some weird stuff that makes me crinkle my brow, I will be OK with it as long as the crucial monumental epic moments make me smile through tears like FoTR did.

[Maigret]

I'm gonna have to say I don't believe the Grima killing of Saruman scene is accurate, mainly because it takes place at Orthanc. At 4 hours+ Jackson just can't leave out the scourging of the Shire and that is where Saruman dies. Changing it to Orthanc just takes way too much liberty with the story and so far, thankfully, Jackson has shown too much respect for it to make such an eggregious change.

My two cents for what they're worth ~

[Mamzelle]

Aragorn vs. Sauron-- if I ran the zoo, I'd turn the Mouth of Sauron into a kind of receptacle and surrogate of the Eye...give him enough body to fight?

[fnord]

thanks for the continuing thread ... I love the spoilers and maybe-spoilers

when does the extended TTT come out?