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To: nicollo
I have a question. If the Republican senators refuse to pay attention to Lott, how much power does he have? In other words, what actions in the Senate would he control without the confidence of the rest of his peers? I know that he schedules floor votes and apparently appoints committee chairmen. What else does he do?

In other words, can he end up as ML in name only?

103 posted on 12/18/2002 1:28:07 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple; nicollo; Common Tator
In other words, can he end up as ML in name only?

That would be an absolutely horrendous proposition.

105 posted on 12/18/2002 1:32:02 PM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society
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To: Miss Marple
As soon as the dims see it is over and if he stays it is over, no more will be said.

I think it is time now for them to jump ole little dickie g., he as been courting the same group as Lott is suppose to have befriended. Think we will here anything? Think about it, they can get rid of a presidential canidate, he is no longer speaker, it would be his death blow.
110 posted on 12/18/2002 1:48:59 PM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: Miss Marple
re. ML powers

I'll put together a larger reply for you later this evening. The quick response is the ML's powers are enormous. Technicalities in the Senate are hugely important, and can define legislation. Think back to Daschle's pre-election games with scheduling. Still, the ML needs the caucus, or the votes from the other side.

What I was pointing to is that Lott's powers are diminished not technically, but effectively.
122 posted on 12/18/2002 3:10:46 PM PST by nicollo
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To: Miss Marple
re: "Majority" or "Floor" Leader ("minority" leader as well)

It is not a constitutional office. It is a partisan officer, elected by members of a caucus. The rules governing it are made up by the caucus that prevails in the majority vote. Thus Daschle was "Majority Leader" when his party did not have a majority. Jeffords joined the Democratic caucus, thus enabling the Democratic "floor" or "majority" leader to manage the caucus' agenda. Go here for the Responsibilities of Majority and Minority Leaders. The Senate website defines the floor leaders' role this way:

The relations between floor leaders and their respective party memberships revolve around an exchange basis. The members of the political party having consolidated their strength elect a leader and place this power at his disposal for operation of the legislative machine to carry out the party's program. The members of the party, in return for their support, can expect the leader's assistance in meeting their individual political needs insofar as practicable. The relationship is one of compromise and mutual forbearance in order to function as a body - a common characteristic of all popularly elected legislative institutions. The leaders are in a position to help any Senator of their party in most cases where the Senator would be unable to help himself acting alone. Individual Senators often consult the leadership about the following matters: when to participate in debate, committee assignments to be sought, particular appointments desired, the passage of particular pieces of legislation, the confirmation of particular nominations and desired administrative action by the executive branch, particularly when the President and the majority in control of Congress are of the same political party. In particular, the appointment powers of the two party leaders gives them some leverage in working with the members of their respective parties.
It continues with a statement relevant to our question about the functioning of a compromised or weakened floor leader:
The position of the floor leader is not that of an army general over a multitude of soldiers. Unlike army officers, the floor leaders must maintain continued support. They are subject to periodic re-election by the same persons they have been leading.
And this:
The leaders are in positions to act as clearing houses for their respective party memberships as to the status of pending legislation; the majority leader commonly posts the Senate on such matters. The work with the agents of their party to secure cooperation and unity in carrying out the party's legislative program. The majority leader remains in constant touch with the chairmen of the various standing committees to keep posted on the progress of legislation. Meetings are regularly held between the leaders and Senators to resolve or clear out any conflicts which might arise over or because of pending proposed legislation.
What goes unsaid in all this is that the floor leader controls the management of legislation, be it the flow of bills to Committees, schedules for votes, and timing and direction of debate. Until "cloture" was enacted in 1917, Senate floor debate was unlimited, which was until then considered sacred. Previously, a Senator could go on forever. Cloture was the mechanism to regain control of debate that was being manipulated by some or even just one Senator (such as endlessly reciting Shakespeare or reading the phone book in order to hold up debate; each Senator is allowed a single statement, and can make it as exhaustively as he wants). Originally, a 2/3rds vote was required to close debate, thus "cloture." The needed majority was amended to 3/5ths in the 1970s. Go here for an explanation.

The principal power the majority floor leader wields is the order and timing of consideration of a bill. The same power is given to Committee chairmen. Committees are more powerful in the Senate than in the House, for in the House the "Committee as a Whole" can consider a bill, whereas the Senate funnels such discussion to the Committees and gives them greater control over a bill's entry to the entire body. That is to say, in the House, a Committee is more easily overruled by a majority vote than in the Senate.

What this all means is that a simple majority defines Committee appointments, schedules, and considerations. Herein is the principal power of the floor leader. Once a debate has moved to the floor, a 3/5ths majority is needed to move to a final vote. To conclude, the Majority Leader requires the cooperation of the caucus and, especially, the Committee Chairs, in order to maintain control over the flow of business. Without it, the Majority Leader has nothing. With it, he has everything, except, as discussed, final dispositions, which require cloture.

I hope that makes sense. Let me know if I've gotten any of this wrong.

If Majority Leader Lott wants to diss the President, he'll have to caucus with the Democrats. Otherwise, he's stuck playing the majority's game. That is, for revenge, he has to oppose the President openly.

As I said before, if Lott stays, he's Bush's gal.

146 posted on 12/18/2002 6:16:31 PM PST by nicollo
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