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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
Well that sounds like the place to watch a movie! I wonder if there's a dinner & movie place around here.

Great. Now I have to think about Grima tears. I always thought they were "tears of joy" that Rohan would be destroyed. I believe that Grima comes to hate Saruman in the book....Saruman always treated Grima with contempt. Then there was the part where Grima throws the Palantir out of Orthanc: Gandalf wasn't sure whether he was aiming at him or at Saruman.
2,945 posted on 01/01/2003 6:09:51 PM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
I always thought they were "tears of joy" that Rohan would be destroyed.

He didn't look happy to me... more like stunned and worried.

I believe that Grima comes to hate Saruman in the book

I agree with you there...

'The murderous rogue!' cried Éomer. But Gandalf was unmoved. 'No, that was not thrown by Saruman,' he said; 'nor even at his bidding, I think. It came from a window far above. A parting shot from Master Wormtongue, I fancy, but ill aimed.'

'The aim was poor, maybe, because he could not make up his mind which he hated more, you or Saruman,' said Aragorn.

'That may be so,' said Gandalf. 'Small comfort will those two have in their companionship: they will gnaw one another with words. But the punishment is just. If Wormtongue ever comes out of Orthanc alive, it will be more than he deserves.'

Of course, he did come out alive... and in the end, it was poor old "Worm" who cut Saruman's throat, after the Scouring of the Shire. Since the Scouring supposedly isn't in ROTK, it makes me wonder what Grima's end will be in the movie.

2,946 posted on 01/01/2003 6:19:11 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear
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