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The Hobbit Hole III - Journey to the Cross-roads!

Posted on 12/17/2002 7:32:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Journey to the Cross-roads

The Two Towers Edition

Come on! Come in! -if you would like to have some seedcakes and a pint and relax a while. (If it is a special occasion, we still have a few bottles of the old wineyards left!)

Our first thread ( New Zealander builds Hobbit hole ) reached 4,100 posts, and we thought that was big. Our second thread (The New Hobbit Hole ) held us for over 48,000 posts, and we loved it dearly. We talked about moving to a new thread for the last 38,000 posts, but we are really slow to muster! Finally, the time has come. Tomorrow (at 12:01 am, to be precise!) The Two Towers comes out, and we start a new chapter.


TOPICS: The Hobbit Hole
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To: HairOfTheDog
Good morning!

My eye is better so I have my contacts on today. That means I have no fear of falling on my face.

Wait...Sean Astin in the HAT!!!

*THUD*

60,501 posted on 07/30/2003 7:46:30 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Deep roots are not reached by the frost.)
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To: 2Jedismom
Margaret's works most of the time, and when it does, smacking it around usually makes it start working eventually. But it isn't completely functional...quits at odd times sometimes, like gets to the menu and freezes.
60,502 posted on 07/30/2003 7:46:41 AM PDT by RosieCotton (HHD)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Awesome pic!

Flush Nemo!

60,503 posted on 07/30/2003 7:47:01 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: RosieCotton
Yep...that is what mine did. I got it to work once for a couple of hours, then it was back to whacking it every few minutes, now it won't work at all.
60,504 posted on 07/30/2003 7:47:31 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: RMDupree
I gotta eat some breakfast, Sis! I mowed the whole front yard on nuthin' but a cup of coffee!

bbl!
60,505 posted on 07/30/2003 7:50:15 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (HHD with 4 Chickens)
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To: Lil'freeper; RMDupree
That article of the Sean and Dom interview is good too... I am not sure I have seen just the two of them hangin' out. The colors they chose are a teensy hard to read on white, but I am feeling lazy. Click the link if you want it easier to read:

CHUD - Cinematic Happenings Under Development

MONAGHAN

7.28.03
By Dave Davis
Contributing sources:

Several members of the Lord of the Rings cast were at this year's San Diego Comic Con to promote the impending DVD release (and subsequent extended edition in November) of The Two Towers, and to get fans ridiculously excited by showing an all-too-brief glimpse of Return of the King, hitting screens this winter.

I got a chance to sit with two of the four hobbits (or 22.222% of the Fellowship) in an incredibly boisterous room, and this is what the extremely laid-back Sean Astin and Dominic Monaghan had to say (or at least what I could decipher from the tape).


Question:  So this is the last film of the series.  Is there a sense of fear or sadness to the end of the trip?

Dominic:  Not really, I mean it’s so far away until the movie opens, months, and then the whole Oscar thing and the DVD coming out, we’ve still got a good while yet.  We’re all really excited about the last one coming out, we’re just kind of waiting.  We’re sitting on something that we know is good, we’re just waiting for the rest of the world to find out.  

Sean:  There’s a certain kind of sadness, yeah.   

Question:  The films have been so well-received, they’ll probably go down as classics on the same level as Star Wars.  That’s got to be kind of daunting, that the films will be remembered on the level as classics. 

Dominic:  It’s hard to have any real concept of that.  I don’t really process that, and when it’s brought up to me, it seems like they’re talking about something else, someone else. 

Sean:  What do you mean by “daunting”? 

Question:  It’s got to be a bit like, “Oh my god, my grandchildren will remember this long after…” 

Sean: My wife said that to me.  We were watching a scene, at the end of the second film, “There’s some good in this world and it’s worth fighting for”, and my wife leaned over and said “When you die, your children will always remember this.”  And I just said “Aaahhh!!!” 

Question:  To put that into perspective, at an online writers’ panel yesterday, the question was raised what everyone’s favorite franchise currently was, and the vote was 6 to 1 in favor of Lord of the Rings. 

Sean:  Nice!  But that whole competition thing, I think it’s a compliment, but it’s boring.

Question:  They wanted to lay it to rest, actually, so that’s the bottom line. 

Sean:  Not for the Star Wars people!  [laughs]  I guess it’s kinda fun, the nature of the competition. 

Question:  One of the most unique things about this experience is that I imagine you walk away with this enormous set of lifetime friendships and associations that you’d never get on another film. 

Dominic:  Absolutely!   

Sean:  Yeah, he [Dominic] and my brother have been living together now for, what? 

Dominic:  A year now?

Sean:  I sold him my car. 

Dominic:  It’s like being on a desert island with a group of people.  Whichever way you look at it, you’ve all been through the same experience, so you’re always going to be linked.  I mean, it’s weird, I guess after we hang out with each other at the end of the year, we won’t even really necessarily need to hang around with each other.   When you’ve been through something so life-changing, so huge, with only a small select group of people, you’ll constantly be around those people because you’ll go back and revisit it. 

Sean:  Dom will need money. 

Dominic:  You’ll need a babysitter. 

Sean:  You mean you’ll feed me and stuff when I can’t do anything? 

Dominic:  I was thinking more about your daughters, but...  [laughs] 

Question:  You’ve been doing these movies for so long, are you looking forward to tackling new material? 

Dominic:  Yeah, in the interim we’ve been able to do new things and flesh out a little bit, but you have to give these movies the respect it deserves.  I’m excited, I want to keep working, and because we’ve been involved with these movies we get more opportunities than we would four or five years ago. 

Question:  What’s your perspective on the way these movies have sort of institutionalized the notion of putting out these extended DVD cuts? 

Sean:  Did Lord of the Rings get credit for the emergence of that business?  I think it may just be a benchmark, because Peter Jackson… I actually got a note on my interviews from a studio guy, saying not to focus so much on the extended DVDs in terms of Peter’s attention and focus during the films, but he really wanted to make [content] for the DVDs.  I remember he said about James Cameron’s The Abyss that the theatrical release, you’ll never see that again, the thing that lives forever is what’s on the DVD.  And at first it seemed like a kiss-off, because he’d say “Don’t worry, it’ll make the DVD”, and you realize he was making this whole experience.   

Question:  There are probably not a lot of three-hour movies that people want more of.

Sean:  [laughs] That’s true.

Question:  Sean, I thought you did a really great job directing the episode of “Angel” this year, any plans to do another one this season? 

Sean:  Thank you very much.  I’ll have to call my agent and beg for another slot.  I’ve been thinking that I should do one, I want to do one.  Joss Whedon is here [at the Con]!  Would it be bad for me to go shilling for a job?  “Please, let me direct another!  People said they liked it!”  But yeah, I hope so.   

Question:  Dominic, what else have you got planned? 

Dominic:  Well, I just finished two English films.  The first one is called Spivs, which is a London gangster heist drama with Nick Moran [of Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels] and Ken Stott, and I play a long-haired bearded stoner and kill a lot of people, kind of different from Merry.  And I did a movie called The Purifiers, which is basically a gang movie, loosely based around The Warriors.  It’s the story of ten rival martial arts gangs who get to get together in a fictional city to try and control crime.  And my gang, the Purifiers, says they don’t want any part of it, so the nine other gangs come after this one gang to kill them. 

Question:  So you actually get to do kung fu in it? 

Dominic:  I get to do Wu Shu, which is a Shaolin technique.  This thing called “sticky hands”, where your elbows are sort of locked together, it’s all about center.  So it was fun, I got to do a lot of wire-work and flips and kicks and stuff. 

Question:  Were you already trained in martial arts? 

Dominic:  I did karate as a kid, from like 12 to 17.  Anything physical I really like. 

Question:  Did you guys read comic books when you were kids?  [This was Comic Con, after all.]

Dominic:  Yeah.  Mainly Spider-Man, the Hulk.  My dad was a big Harry Crumb fan, so there was always that around.  Love Preacher.  Elijah and I tried to go down [to the show floor] and buy some comics but it got a little bit hectic down there.  So we might go incognito.  I want to meet Stan Lee and Mark Hamill.   

Question:  What do you think is the difference between comic fans and movie fans? 

Sean:  Is there a difference?  I think there’s a lot of crossover.

Question:  What was it about [Showtime series] "Jeremiah" that made you want to join the cast? 

Sean:  Joe Straczynski.  And Luke Perry called my agent and made a passionate pitch for me to a part of the show, and I was moved by that effort on his part.  So I investigated the show, and sat with Joe Straczynski, and looked at what he wanted to do, and I got it.  And it was good money. 

And then the hobbits were whisked away by the Nazgul.  Or some talent wrangler.


60,506 posted on 07/30/2003 7:52:10 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Sean: Joe Straczynski.

The man has good taste. Straczynski did the B5 series- nearly single-handedly.

60,507 posted on 07/30/2003 7:56:15 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: 2Jedismom
It's dead, Jim.

I am so sorry.

60,508 posted on 07/30/2003 7:56:32 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: osagebowman
Hair; that Paul J guy on the dog thread had to be a troll. btw, good call on the boy-friend vs dog question. Same would have to apply for girl-friends.

I don't think he knew the whole thread would turn on him over that comment!

Good day osage!

60,509 posted on 07/30/2003 7:59:38 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Good morning back..this "catching up" will be quick...the dentist is waiting. The "pings" are great and appreciated. I gotta get Katz's book. Prob. will try to order it. Hope all is well and you all have a good day.
60,510 posted on 07/30/2003 8:06:43 AM PDT by mstar
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To: 2Jedismom; trini
See ya in a bit!!

Of course, trini called me here at work to say she was enjoying cookies. Wicked creature! ;)

60,511 posted on 07/30/2003 8:07:31 AM PDT by RMDupree (HHD: Deep roots are not reached by the frost.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Thanks for the pictures. If I ever feel like watching paint dry again, I have a place to go. Yesterday I read a book instead, but again, thanks. I got the first three (good laugh) pictures, but for the life of me, I can't figure out the last.
60,512 posted on 07/30/2003 8:13:06 AM PDT by mstar
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear
thanks
60,513 posted on 07/30/2003 8:14:24 AM PDT by mstar
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To: RMDupree
I LOVE cookies!
60,514 posted on 07/30/2003 8:15:09 AM PDT by trini
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To: HairOfTheDog; Corin Stormhands; All
Reaction at the NES when told that our scheduled implosion date is 8/12:

Crap. We need another Mary conversation or something. How bout somebody changing denominations again. :-)

No resting on our laurels! We've got 'em on the run, and now it's time to beat them into submission!

.
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In a Hobbit-like fashion, that is.

60,515 posted on 07/30/2003 8:19:28 AM PDT by ksen (HHD;FRM)
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To: ecurbh; HairOfTheDog
I heard that!

'Course you did. You were s'posed to...

60,516 posted on 07/30/2003 8:19:58 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I'm going on vacation in THREE days....)
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To: ksen
You're not supposed to TELL them we're racing! Now we've lost our stealth advantage!
60,517 posted on 07/30/2003 8:21:17 AM PDT by RosieCotton (HHD)
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To: HairOfTheDog; RosieCotton
I am sure you are not supposed to get twittery when he is readin' the kids book.... It was on a children's site after all!

If'n people didn't get twittery, wouldn't be no kids...

60,518 posted on 07/30/2003 8:22:12 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I'm going on vacation in THREE days....)
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To: RosieCotton; g'nad
Now we've lost our stealth advantage!

Naw, we still have g'nad.

60,519 posted on 07/30/2003 8:22:19 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: 2Jedismom
Think I could just box it back up and return it?

I doubt it since you've used it. You might have better luck with the manufacturer.

60,520 posted on 07/30/2003 8:23:41 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I'm going on vacation in THREE days....)
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