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To: strela
Good analysis. I went home disappointed, but that's qualified by the fact that I expected to. It was one of those movies that keeps you waiting for the good part, the sequence worth $8.75, the meat, the climax, the stuff after the lead in, but it never comes, and you're left with an unimpressive final battle, and an ending far too abrupt and empty to conclude an entire series, let alone one movie. The title character was awful, didn't resemble Picard at all, and the picture showing cadet Picard that ugly and already bald left me with a sick feeling. It was strangely disconcerting to see the proud and untouchable Romulans at the 'mercy' of a bald-teenager (I already forget his name). I'm sick of corny superweapons, especially ones that turn their victims into stone. There are so many more imaginative ways to kill people that have never even been explored. Was Before a Soongh creation, and what was up with the the four-wheelers who chased Picard, Data, and Worf? Can't they think of a more inspired name for Riker's command than Titan. When two starships run into each other head on, they don't mangle and interweave; they blow up. I hated to see two ugly butterflies replace the old green double-wing warbirds(the best looking, most intimidating ship in ST). The slow, original-music flybys of the Enterprise were classic. What was the point of the Riker-Reman battle-scene at the end? To fill up time? Predictably and sadly disappointing, but worth seeing.
11 posted on 12/14/2002 12:03:39 AM PST by ForOurFuture
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To: ForOurFuture
You're definitely spot on about the warbirds. The previous ones were much more menacing. I probably would have paid full price to see this movie (CAD$13.50) but I'm glad I went to a weekday matinee, $5 off. Frugality wasn't my only motivation. I figured seeing it during business hours would help me avoid the crowds. It was barely half filled. Also, my bedtime Friday nights is early. I get up at 4 am Saturdays for work.
16 posted on 12/14/2002 4:08:38 AM PST by badfreeper
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To: ForOurFuture
It was one of those movies that keeps you waiting for the good part, the sequence worth $8.75 ...

You must live in the big city. The 7 PM show was only $7 here. But you're right - there was no "wow" scene.

The title character was awful, didn't resemble Picard at all, and the picture showing cadet Picard that ugly and already bald left me with a sick feeling.

Especially since they established that Picard had hair at the Academy in the series.

It was strangely disconcerting to see the proud and untouchable Romulans at the 'mercy' of a bald-teenager (I already forget his name).

It would be like the Congress and the Supreme Court of the US saying, "OK, we'll declare you the President if you'll just solve this Middle East problem for us." Silly and derivative. Also, it must be tough being a galactic villain when you're leaning over puking your guts out every 15 minutes.

I'm sick of corny superweapons, especially ones that turn their victims into stone.

Kind of like Viagra writ large, eh?

Was Before a Soongh creation, and what was up with the the four-wheelers who chased Picard, Data, and Worf?

While we're on the subject of the esteemed Dr. Often-Wrong Soongh, the hook upon which they hung Data's special status in the series is that he is the unique creation of a genius. Now, we find out that Soongh apparently left factory seconds and experimental models strewn all over the cosmos (Lore, this jamoke, etc.); you can't take two steps without tripping over a Soongh android lying around somewhere. How many times is the franchise going to trot out this old chestnut?

Can't they think of a more inspired name for Riker's command than Titan.

Kinda gives you the mental image of a big flying bar code, eh? If they add an "ic" to the name, maybe they can get Leonardo DiCaprio to do a guest shot on "Riker - The Next Generation."

When two starships run into each other head on, they don't mangle and interweave; they blow up.

Not to mention the hundreds of innocent crewmembers living in the forward sections of the saucer section who Picard condemned to death by turning them into chunky salsa (including, presumably, Guinan; the bar is called "Ten FORWARD"). Also, the rest of the Federation fleet was just waiting somewhere; why do communications always seem to fail just when Picard could have called in some of those laggards to help him out?

I hated to see two ugly butterflies replace the old green double-wing warbirds(the best looking, most intimidating ship in ST).

You know what the new Romulan vessels reminded me of? Watch a movie called "Enemy Mine" some time (came out a few years ago) - they look exactly like a larger version of a Drac fighter.

What was the point of the Riker-Reman battle-scene at the end? To fill up time?

Right in one. And to give Frakes something to do besides boffing Sirtis, I guess.

Predictably and sadly disappointing, but worth seeing.

Agree.

18 posted on 12/14/2002 5:46:23 AM PST by strela
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To: ForOurFuture
$8.75 for a ticket? Ouch! I only go to the matinees and pay 4.25. That, combined with low expectations, made it an overall enjoyable experience. It's almost worth the price of a 4.25 ticket just to see how many tired cliche's and lame plot devices they trot out.
21 posted on 12/15/2002 6:44:46 AM PST by Brett66
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