Tyranny at FR!(A must read!)

TheAmericanEnterprise ^ | 11/21/02 | Myself

[ChadGore]

If brevity is the soul of wit, and in this case it is, I should say that Jim deserves kudos all around for his clever use of the word "Up" followed so closley by the well researched and presented "yours"

( wild applause ) [ golf clap ] Often times the broadest knowledge is found in the simplest expressions, and I for one hope something will indeed be up the posters postior.

Oh sure, Jim could have waxed phylosophic and sophmoric for 30k of text (much like I'm doing here) about exactly how and why this gentleman is missguided into thinking he runs a forum thet he neither built, nor helps to maintain, but, in applying that kind of knowledge only culled from wisdom, Jim sums it up quite well in a short and to the point dis that is less than 7 characters in length.

[LionsDaughter]

Auburn is a university. The tiger is our mascot. I suppose though that we can all "predict" the past. : )

[let freedom sing]

Now I ask you fellow FReepers, is this the behavior of any kind of moderator.

Not any kind of moderator, just THE #1 or #2 moderator. BTW-- I'm not sure what your opinion of Black Racism is, but it's obvious that Jim didn't agree with you. Besides, your new FR name is not helping your case-- but maybe Jim has more of a sense of humor about these things, since this was moved to chat and not deleted, too.

[TigersEye]

I suppose though that we can all "predict" the past.

Not always with the clarity and precision that you displayed.

"TigersEye" is an exhortation to see China for what it is. My feeling being that if you clearly understand China for what it is you will have the same sensation in the pit of your stomach as you would looking into the eyes of a tiger on some lonely forest path.

[LionsDaughter]

A very arresting and accurate comparison. Kudos to you for your creativity.

[null and void]

The web site belongs to Jim Robinson. We may post at Jim's pleasure and we may support this site at our own pleasure.

I shall continue to support this site.

Worth repeating

[TigersEye]

Thank you.
When I signed up China was very much on my mind what with the techno favors Clinton gave them. On my wall next to my computer was a photo of a tiger placed there to remind me that death is ever present and life is precious. So my geo-political fears combined with my personal apathy jogger, for lack of a better term, became my nick.
That was one of the few times I came up with a username or password without staring blankly into space for thirty minutes. lol

[Ben Bolt]

My wife told me some thread about this black racism . I told her it was not news . So now I see here another person so devoid of a core substance that he will use the web to fill a dark crevice that can never be filled .

Let me cry with you .. write a letter to dorben2@excite.com . I send all of the trolls there . If you can get focused and actually apply yourself , you can also have a life .

[Moonmad27]

Great post! And don't forget, Jim obviously has a strong background in classic literature; the immortal Shakespeare himself used "up" and "yours" (just not in the same sentence). Brevity is the soul of wit, indeed.

[jlogajan]

The web site belongs to Jim Robinson. We may post at Jim's pleasure and we may support this site at our own pleasure.

Well, yes and no. This site is paid for by donations. Jim takes a nice cut -- from those donations.

In reality, Jim serves at the pleasure of his donaters -- they just might not realize it. He does.

[Maedhros]

I'm disturbed by some of the replies on this thread. The poster has a valid point.

[John W]

I would imagine if the poster had left the threat out,the reply might have been more civil.Such as,"Up yours,sir."

[KDD]

Mr. D’souze: May I respond?

Dr. Stokes: Sure

Mr. D’souze: You think that dead cab drivers are a figment of my imagination? In the city that you live in New York City or the city I live in Washington D.C. there are very few White cab drivers. They're the cab drivers a lot of them immigrants, they are Pakistanis, they are Lebanese, they are from Barbados, they are from the West Indies. In Washington D.C. the vast majority of cab drivers are African Americans. They too are reluctant or fearful to pick up young Black males. Why? Because they are racist too. Everybody is a racist, they don't want to get a fare, they're just scared that you have a fever? No. The cab driver. . . you have a right to get a cab. I would be pretty damn annoyed if I couldn't get a cab. I have a right not to be inconvenienced. But doesn't the cab driver have a right to protect his property and his security?

Professor Marable: It's not about inconvenience. . . .

Mr. D’souze: Hold on, hold on.

Professor Marable: It's about the law. It's about the law.

Dr. Stokes: Let him finish, Manning.

Mr. D’souze: My point is the decision of the African American cab driver who is worried about the risk of having to. . .of leaving his wife a widow, who has somebody he doesn't know. . .that's the key issue. . .the point is the cab driver is not in the position to get to know you personally. In that sense he is different from the bank teller making a loan or the employer giving you a job. Those people can say, do you have a criminal record. You know, the cab driver has got to make probablistic decisions based upon statistics and probability. And so, that is what the cab driver is doing. The cab driver is basically saying what are the odds, what are the odds that this potential rider whom I would like to take and I would like to take the money, but I've got to weigh the chance of getting $10 from them against the chance that someone sitting behind me might pose a risk to me. The cab driver has to make that decision. All I'm saying is. . .I'm not saying he always make s the right decision. Some people are racists, but I am saying you cannot simply ascribe bigotry to his motives and if you do, if you do, then you have a huge disconnect between in a sense one sector of society that essentially goes around calling all the cab drivers racists. Even the non-White ones. They're all racists.

Professor Marable: Quickly. You took four minutes, I'll take forty seconds. I mean, basically you don't understand the point. You don't understand the point. The Civil Rights Act of 1964, no wonder you want to repeal it. You want to make people to make decisions. . .

DEBATE between
Manning Marable, Columbia University
Dinesh D'Souza, American Enterprise Institute
Curtis Stokes, Michigan State University, Moderator

[KDD]

"The Historical, Contemporary, and Future Role of Race in the U.S."

[GovernmentShrinker]

Not having seen the original post, I can't determine directly whether this poster has a valid point. However, I can infer from his new screen name that there is a very strong likelihood that he doesn't.

[farmfriend]

I was a poster on the thread in question. The discussion about black racism was not the problem. There was a post on the thread that stated black culture was evil. There was a subsiquent discussion on that topic resulting in posts being pulled and then the thread being pulled. I requested that the thread be moved to the smoking room but that request was denied. Conservative black freepers were not offended by the original thread just the racist remarks that followed and they were actively debating the concept with the poster.

[farmfriend]

It wasnt' the poster of the article that was the problem, it was Nateman. I don't know how long he had been a freeper.

[Cyber Liberty]

I am confident that the poster in question would have received a more civil reply from Jim if he hadn't spent half the email threatening him.