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To: crystalk
But this myth is just too holy to question.

That is the biggest load of bullsh*t to come down the pike in a long time. You and stand waite ought to exchange notes, you on this fairy tale and him on his alleged quotes about 'mud colored people'. What you are claiming, not me, is a conspiracy. A deliberate cover-up by every single single person who has written a biography on Lincoln. Not a single one of those people uncovered this information that you claim is 'evidenced rather abundantly by public records'. Every single one missed it. Either that or every single one chose to ignore the facts. All participated in a cover up to protect the holy myth. None decided that they wanted to write the bombshell that tore the cover off and exposed the real Lincoln. Do you realize how far fetched that is? Don't you think that it is more likely that reputable scholars may have come across this story in the past and dismissed it as the load of manure it is?

964 posted on 11/19/2002 10:56:03 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
A deliberate cover-up by every single single person who has written a biography on Lincoln.

Not EVERY biographer. There are many books that tell varying versions of the life. Many of them were written in the late 1800s. DiLorenzo's book is a biography, of sorts.

977 posted on 11/19/2002 11:07:21 AM PST by agrandis
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To: Non-Sequitur
Where were Nancy Hanks and Tom Lincoln in 1804?

When and in what State, did they marry?

Where is any evidence of either in Kentucky before the fall of 1808?

Surely no one will dispute that both were employed by Abraham Enloe as of 1-1-1804, he at the main Rutherford plantation and she at the Bostic farm.

Where is any evidence they were married at all before the fall of 1808?

Even if somehow the bearded Abe could (at 13?) win rail-splitting contests against grown men in 1822 New Salem, surely no one will deny that his antecedents were leading remarkably parallel lives in Rutherford County, NC, in 1803-08, years just before [or after!] his birth!

A myth is really better than the truth, after all. It may be closer to what is needed, demanded, by the spirit of the times. Carl Sandburg knew all about this, but all he dared do was move from his native Illinois to a spot in North Carolina near the true birthplace, where the Emancipator's poet/biographer lived out the rest of his days.

1,025 posted on 11/19/2002 12:36:04 PM PST by crystalk
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