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To: stand watie
go read lincoln's PRIVATE correspondence. that's all the proof you or anyone else will need.

Here's some of his private correspondence.

"I am not a Know-Nothing. That is certain. How could I be? How can any one who abhors the oppression of negroes, be in favor of degrading classes of white people? Our progress in degeneracy appears to me to be pretty rapid. As a nation, we began by declaring that "all men are created equal." We now practically read it "all men are created equal, except Negroes." When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read "all men are created equal, except Negroes and foreigners and Catholics." When it comes to this, I shall prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty - to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure and without the base alloy of hypocrisy." The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume II, "Letter to Joshua F. Speed" (August 24, 1855), p. 323.

That seems to put the lie to your hateful rant.
783 posted on 11/18/2002 10:25:51 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Ditto
Thanks for that very intresting post (#783). It's strange, in that it reads so very modern, and so contradictory to so many other things Honest Abe said in public and private. I shall have to check into this book. I have to say that, correctly or not, my BS-O-Meter is being pegged in reding that quote (kind of like Barara Streisand's "Shakespeare quote"), much the way my Stretching-it-O-Meter went off when I read some parts of DiLorenzo's book.
787 posted on 11/18/2002 10:55:39 AM PST by agrandis
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To: Ditto
From your same source (The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler):"Negro equality. Fudge! How long in the Government of a God great enough to make and maintain this Universe, shall there continue knaves to vend and fools to gulp, so low a piece of demagoguism as this?" -- Abraham Lincoln

I have to say, though, these "collected works" keep setting off my BS-O-Meter. The language just doesn't see authentic.

795 posted on 11/18/2002 11:27:57 AM PST by agrandis
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