Abraham Lincon, September 13, 1862
What you fear, and hate, is the possibility that Southern Conservatives might actually do it again. Your nightmare is coming true. Check out, www.dixienet.org. Your false god has racist, clay feet. He was a tyrant, and we are raising our children to hate him.
Larry Salley
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Walt
While no doubt teaching them to revere the memory of the racist tyrant Jefferson Davis? What sort of mixed message is that?
Yeah, I had some dealings with them a few years ago. Here's an exchange from Google.com they are not able to delete:
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Mr. Davis sends:
Walt,
whiskpop3@aol.com was recorded about a week ago. Just wanted you to know you are being watched. If this trend continues, the following list of email addresses you regsitered in the past will be used as evidence and be given to the proper authorities at AOL for a possible cancelation on your account.
walterm140@aol.com
lngremmbr@aol.com
rojolobo1@aol.com
cutiedomi@aol.com
volsgoone@aol.com
rubyeg@aol.com
tennfierce@aol.com
histry101@aol.com
histry1001@aol.com
histry1oo1@aol.com
unionmn17@aol.com
whiskpop@aol.com
whiskpop1@aol.com
popwhisk2@aol.com
whiskpop3@aol.com
My advice is to quit abusing the Dixie Perspective rebboard.
John Davis
Rebmaster, Dixie Perspective
Those are mostly not my ID's. I will say that every time I logged onto the Rebboard, I always got a cheery little e-mail that said "welcome to the Rebboard!" Every time. I thought my opinions were welcomed. You used to reference free speech in your listing of what the Rebboard stood for. I guess that is out the window. In fact, free speech is exactly what you DON'T want.
You yorself provide the proof of that. I'd think you'd welcome outside opinion. After all, your position that southerners acted legally and with propriety during the ACW is unassailable, right? In fact, you, as I recall, put up a note on the Rebboard about me, saying that you'd let me stay, and even soliciting the opinions of the group. Then I put up a certain piece of text, and my ID was immediately blocked.
Are you afraid of the truth? Of free speech? Of a free exchange of ideas? Doesn't the historical record back you up?
Let cut and paste the text that got my ID blocked:
"People who want to start wars should think seriously about where the war might be fought. It is generally unpleasant to have the war fought on your own territory. Secessionists were particularly unthinking in this respect, the ACW being fought almost entirely in the South, with few minor and short-term exceptions such as Lee's failed Maryland incursion in 1862, Morgan's failed Ohio raid in 1863, Lee's failed Pennsylvania incursion in 1863, and Early's arsonist raid on Chambersburg, PA in 1864.
Thus the Union had far greater opportunity to misbehave in Secessionist territory than the reverse. But Rebel forces, in the few opportunities available to them, violated the same rules and useages of war that were breached by the Union.
Thus, we Southerners are a bit hypocritical when we condemn the Union for depredations in the South --- because the Secessionists were the first of the belligerent parties to propose and glorify a Total War policy to be applied against enemy cities, populations and private property.
Both Jeff Davis and Louis Wigfall, before resigning from the US Senate to go south, threatened the burning of Northern cities and the plunder of their populations as punishment (US Senate, CONGRESSIONAL GLOBE,10 Jan. 1861).
Stonewall Jackson urged the adoption of this policy (Henderson, STONEWALL JACKSON AND THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR, London, 1898), adding that Confederate troops should fight under the "Black Flag" - no quarter, kill all prisoners - and proposing to Virginia Governor Letcher a week after Virginia's secession that he, Jackson, should set the example (Columbia, SC, DAILY SOUTH CAROLINIAN, 6 Feb. 1864). Letcher proposed in early 1862 that the Confederacy should attack Northern civilians and their public and private property, not simply to affect the enemy's armies but to punish its population for supporting the war (Letcher to Pickens, 28 April 1862. L&D Box 5, Clements Library. U. of Mich.).
From the very beginning of the war, the Secessionists' Total War policy was triumphantly endorsed by newspapers across the South, some of which were later to howl the loudest about Sherman's jaunt through Georgia. For example, thinking incorrectly that Lee was about to run rampant through Pennsylvania in 1862, the Richmond newspapers crowed "We hope that the (Confederate) troops will turn the whole country into a desert", (RICHMOND DISPATCH, 17 Sept. 1862). This sentiment was also widely reflected in Secessionist oratory and correspondence of the early-war period.
Lee's troops plundered and burned extensively in the 1863 invasion of Pennsylvania, committing acts of violence against civilians and personal property, including housebreaking, theft of money and food, and destruction of personal property. Lee's second order forbidding these practices was issued after the fact - and was again widely ignored by his troops (Royster, DESTRUCTIVE WAR, pg. 37; Knopf, 1991).
Early's burning of Chambersburg, PA, on 30 July 1864 predated Sherman's burning of Atlanta, GA. The main difference between the two events was that Atlanta was a fortified and strongly defended town holding a vast number of military installations, munitions factories and army supply depots, whereas Chambersburg was an unfortified, virtually undefended town holding nothing of any military use or value. Confederate troops left Chambersburg after more than 300 of its houses had been burned and many of its citizens robbed (Pauley, UNRECONSTRUCTED REBEL: THE LIFE OF GENERAL JOHN MCCAUSELAND CSA, Pictorial Histories Publ., 1992). Atlanta burned four days later.
In short, Grant and Sherman adopted the Secessionist policy of Total War, applied it more effectively than the Confederacy ever could, and thereby shortened an increasingly hateful and hated war. Yes, Sherman made Georgia and South Carolina howl, but for the second time. The first time Georgia and South Carolina (and Virginia) howled was for the same kind of violence to be applied against Northern cities, populations and private property. Sic Semper Sic'ems."
I didn't write this text. It was posted on an AOL board by another. But, quicker than you can say "mint julip", my access was blocked. The reason is obvious. On this issue of northern atrocities, as on most of the issues espoused by the LS, your position is bankrupt. Goodness know you can't allow free speech in your hateful hothouse. How else can you mantain the proper atmossphere for misinforation?
Mr. Davis, you need to ask me very politely to rejoin the Rebboard. Elsewise, you'l be showing the whole world, that free speech is not important to you.
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Walt