[Aurelius]

"That is not a fact."

I was careless in my usage. Let me restate.

I am very strongly of the opinion that if peaceful unilateral secession from the federation formed is 1789 was not an option then that federation was in total contradiction to the spirit that ostensibly underlay its foundation. Instead while the federation had no person as king, the federal government was in reality a corporate king with claim to divine rights and with subjects - owned by that corporate royalty and from whom unquestioning loyaly was demanded - rather than free citizens. That is how I see it.

[LS]

Ok, that may be how you see it. But that is not how the FOUNDERS saw it, and that is the context in which we must measure all laws, especially the Constitution, or we are right in the lap of the liberals with their "living document" tripe about the constitution and their definitions of "militia" as "national guard." I don't think you want that!