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This Is My Opus: "john in missouri" Says Farewell to Free Republic.
vanity (john in missouri) | 11/5/02 | john in missouri

Posted on 11/05/2002 1:37:01 PM PST by john in missouri

This is my opus.

No, I am not writing this opus because someone has offended me. Far more than anything else, I've met friends here.

If Free Republic is to blame at all, it is for the sole crime of being too involving, too fascinating a place for me to spend my time.

I believe in conservative principles. My time here has only reinforced that belief.

It has also helped me figure out precisely what I believe about a variety of

contemporary issues, and the appropriate role of government (or lack of role) as

it relates to them.

I believe that the role of government is best played when it encourages and

reinforces individual responsibility and initiative. These are the greatest keys to

our future as a nation. They are also the greatest keys to individual and family

prosperity, in all senses of the word.

My problem, alas, is that, for various reasons, my family and I have yet to enjoy

the fruits of any such prosperity in the financial arena.

This is due in good part to the fact that we spent so many years of our younger

adult lives serving others in volunteer service, to try and make the world a better

place, while paying scant attention (or none) to our own financial situation. But

regardless of the reasons, this is a situation I must seek, as best I can, to

remedy.

In order to do so, I must cut back on non income-producing, time-consuming

endeavors, as worthy as they may be. I must go out and spend my full time, as

much as possible, living some of the more material principles of conservatism....

I must say that I hope to see you again. But it can not be for some time. At quite

a bare minimum, I expect that "john in missouri" shall not post again, at the very

least, until after the earth has passed its circuit around the sun and the date on

the calendar reads 2004... and it may be much, much longer than that... perhaps

many years.

It may be that we will meet one day... perhaps on the street... perhaps in a small,

local gathering of FReepaholics Anonymous... or perhaps one day at a

campaign rally or other event... Maybe one day, after much time has gone by,

we may even meet at a campaign rally in which I may one day run for a public

office -- because I would like to do that someday, as well.

But I speak of the far future.

Anyway, perhaps we will meet again. And perhaps you will know me as

a FReeper when you see me, and I you.

I am proud to say that my final post (excluding this one) led to my being

recognized as being the 500th distinct FReeper to announce that I voted today

to further the conservative cause. It is a good way to go.

And now, my final wishes.

May good sense and the Republican Party retake the United States Senate

tonight.

May the fat on Hillary's thighs be doubly surpassed by that which grows upon

her jowls. May she and Bill enjoy a long marriage. They deserve each other.

May Little Tommy Daschle, Algore, the Reverend Jesse Jackson, and the

officials of the NEA, NOW, Planned Parenthood and the "ACLU" -- those

paragons of liberal bleatership -- enjoy all the success they deserve.

May Osama, Saddam, and their friends, associates and admirers -- those who

persist in doing unspeakable evil by slaughtering the innocent in the name of a

merciful and compassionate God -- meet with the utter destruction they justly

deserve.

A blessing upon our President, our nation, and all who love our nation. And a

curse upon those who seek to destroy it.

A blessing upon the President's team, including Powell, Ashcroft, Rice, and all

others who are faced with difficult decisions and challenges in their challenge to

help protect our country and our people.

A blessing upon the Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson. May his tribe increase.

A blessing upon those, now increasingly numerous, who champion common

sense conservatism on the radio.

May our entire nation, through sheer virtue, be set 100% free from the

threat of violent criminals. But if we really must have them, then I pray

they will only attack those who bend every effort to take away from

all of us our God-given right to self-defense.

A blessing upon Jim Rob and upon Admin Moderator (whoever the heck he or

she may be).

And a blessing upon all true FReepers, including my many friends here.

Long live America! And now, Farewell.

I have been, and always shall be...

...a FReeper.

Live long... and prosper.


And now, with all my farewells said
I turn to face the autumn light
My backside squarely framed within
The bright'n'd rectangle of the exit door
And nothing more to say, I thrust
My foot into the great unknown...


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To: Always Right
That's too funny considering the bottom 50% pay virtually no federal income tax. As usuall your perspective is warped.

The vast majority of the working people I am referring to are in the TOP 50%.

101 posted on 11/06/2002 6:15:33 AM PST by Tuco-bad
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To: Sam Cree
You are a believer in progressive taxing?

Absolutetly.

102 posted on 11/06/2002 6:18:05 AM PST by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
"Absolutely."

I wouldn't mind if you elaborate a little. I disagree with you here, since I see progressive taxation as a method of redistribution of wealth, basically a form of egalitarianism

BTW, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is one of my favorite movies.

How are you the most "conservative" member of FR?

103 posted on 11/06/2002 6:42:22 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree

Do you believe Ken Lay should pay the same percentage in taxes than you?

BTW, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is one of my favorite movies.

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly IS my favorite movies.

How are you the most "conservative" member of FR?

For starters: Want REAL tax relief form the workers ($30,000 - $200,000).

Want our borders fully protected (Terrorists and illegals).

Will oppose any politician (Rep or Dem) if I feel the politician is corrupt or not working in the interests of the people and country.

104 posted on 11/06/2002 7:04:51 AM PST by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
I think Ken Lay should be in jail

But, yes, I think people with his kind of wealth should pay the same percentage of their income in taxes as I do, since their percentages would amount to vastly greater sums of money than mine and since I do not believe in "redistributive" governmental policy.

Agree with you on the borders, but don't see the other 2 issues as particularly conservative.

I enjoy all three characters in "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly."
105 posted on 11/06/2002 7:22:25 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Tuco-bad
For starters: Want REAL tax relief form the workers ($30,000 - $200,000).

Don't have the latest numbers, but here are the 1998 income levels at each point and the percentage of the total federal income taxes they account for:

Top 1 %............$269,496......34.75 %
Top 5 %.............$114,729.....53.84 %
Top 10 %.............$83,220......65.04 %
Top 25 %.............$50,607......82.69 %
Top 50 %.............$25,491......95.79 %

So, what you are saying is that you favor a tax cut for everyone but the top 2% or so? By your brilliant plan, you would have to raise their taxes to more than 90% to pay for it. That was tried before in the late 50's and early 70's to disasterous results. Even JFK realized such communistic tax system is doomed to failure.

106 posted on 11/06/2002 10:36:43 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Sam Cree
How are you the most "conservative" member of FR?

He is a liberal who worships Al Gore and thinks Katherine Harris is the most evil person on the planet. Like many liberals, truthfulness is not his best suit.

107 posted on 11/06/2002 10:39:30 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
what you are saying is that you favor a tax cut for everyone but the top 2%

I favor a fair tax cut for everyone in the top 50%.

108 posted on 11/06/2002 10:50:18 AM PST by Tuco-bad
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To: Always Right
He is a liberal who worships Al Gore and thinks Katherine Harris is the most evil person on the planet. Like many liberals, truthfulness is not his best suit.

Never supported Gore.

Can you find a more evil person than Empress Harris (other than Jane Fonda).

109 posted on 11/06/2002 10:52:55 AM PST by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
Can you find a more evil person than Empress Harris (other than Jane Fonda).

Don't know any Empress Harris. I do know the classy intelligent nice-looking babe named Katherine Harris who just won her Congressional race.

110 posted on 11/06/2002 10:58:32 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Tuco-bad
I favor a fair tax cut for everyone in the top 50%.

So you must have loved Bush's tax cut which cut taxes for everyone in the top 50% in roughly the proportion to the amount they paid. Nothing could be more fair than that.

111 posted on 11/06/2002 11:00:43 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
I do know the classy intelligent nice-looking babe named Katherine Harris who just won her Congressional race.

"nice-looking babe" did Empress Harris get the second part of her plastic surgery?

Back in 2000 it seemed they did the right side, but not the left side of her face.

Hey - no flames, you did say she was "nice looking".

112 posted on 11/06/2002 11:24:19 AM PST by Tuco-bad
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To: Always Right
So you must have loved Bush's tax cut which cut taxes for everyone in the top 50% in roughly the proportion to the amount they paid. Nothing could be more fair than that.

Bush gave the wealthy a higher % cut than the working people.

Nothing could be more unfairer than that.

113 posted on 11/06/2002 11:31:19 AM PST by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
Bush gave the wealthy a higher % cut than the working people. Nothing could be more unfairer than that.

Not true at all.

DISTRIBUTIONAL EFFECT OF VARIOUS PROVISIONS
IN THE BUSH TAX PLAN 1
Calendar Year 2005


Change in Federal Taxes

INCOME CATEGORY

Millions

Percent

Less than $10,000

-$78

-1.0%

$10,000 to $20,000

-$1,672

-6.2%

$20,000 to $30,000

-$4,104

-6.1%

$30,000 to $40,000

-$6,492

-6.2%

$40,000 to $50,000

-$7,973

-6.7%

$50,000 to $75,000

-$20,647

-6.4%

$75,000 to $100,000

-$17,897

-6.1%

$100,000 to $200,000

-$28,970

-5.8%

$200,000 and over

-$32,245

-5.9%


TOTAL, ALL TAXPAYERS

$120,079

-6.1%

1 Includes a phased-in increase in the child credit, reduction
in individual marginal rates, the creation of a 10% bracket, a second
earner deduction, and a charitable deduction for non-itemizers.

Source: Joint Committe on Taxation, May 2, 2000

Other distribution analyses of Bush plan:

-Who bears the tax burden vs. who gets the tax cuts

-Income distribution and size of average tax cuts

Bush's tax plan does EXACTLY what you say you want. So really you must love Bush's tax plan now that I have shown you the light, and must alos love the lovely Katherine Harris too for making it all possible! Well, unless you are not being truthful to us....

114 posted on 11/06/2002 12:00:41 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
$200,000 and over -$32,245 -5.9%

Now how much change in federal taxes for those earning $1,000,000 or more, and those earning $100,000,000 or more?

115 posted on 11/06/2002 12:35:56 PM PST by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
Now how much change in federal taxes for those earning $1,000,000 or more, and those earning $100,000,000 or more?

Well probably not much. The numbers from $10K to $200K were pretty damn flat and the number for over $200K doesn't indicate there would be a change. You are reaching to deny that this is EXACTLY what you say you stand for. Face it, the Bush/Harris Tax Cut is the Tuco-bad tax cut. Oh, the irony.

116 posted on 11/06/2002 12:43:59 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
The numbers from $10K to $200K were pretty damn flat and the number for over $200K doesn't indicate there would be a change.

Not true.

Oh BTW - ever hear about the AMT, what Bush gives the working people, he takes from the working people?

Oh BTW - ever hear of the increase in payroll taxes, what Bush gives the working people, he takes from the working people?

And I won't bother mentioning increases in excies taxes (i.e., telephone, air travel, etc.)?

Yes, let's give the rich EVERYTHING, as they create jobs for us (i.e., outsourcing to India, Russia, etc.).

117 posted on 11/06/2002 1:53:47 PM PST by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
Not true.

Hard to argue when all you just deny an obvious fact.

Oh BTW - ever hear about the AMT, what Bush gives the working people, he takes from the working people?

Bush's tax plan had nothing to do with the AMT. Clinton however did stop the indexing of the AMT exemption which causes more and more people to be effected by this stupid tax.

Oh BTW - ever hear of the increase in payroll taxes, what Bush gives the working people, he takes from the working people?

I assume you are just talking about Social Security and medicare taxes, which the Bush plan did nothing to. Payroll taxes also include Federal Income Tax withholdings, which Bush did lower. Again you have no point.

And I won't bother mentioning increases in excies taxes (i.e., telephone, air travel, etc.)?

Bush's tax plan had nothing to do with these either. Just face it, Tuco-Bad loves Bush's tax cut. You are in denial, I know. Yes, let's give the rich EVERYTHING, as they create jobs for us (i.e., outsourcing to India, Russia, etc.).

Again, as the table clearly showed the tax cut was fairly flat across the board for all incomes (in fact it slightly favored the $50K-200K people you seem so concerned about). You haven't made a point, but I didn't really expect you would. I'll give you Katherine Harris's e-mail address if you would like to send her a love letter.

118 posted on 11/06/2002 2:14:30 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Bush's tax plan had nothing to do with the AMT. Clinton however did stop the indexing of the AMT exemption which causes more and more people to be effected by this stupid tax.

That's the "dance", Bush says he didn't institute the AMT so he won't change the AMT.

I assume you are just talking about Social Security and medicare taxes, which the Bush plan did nothing to.

Another Bush "dance" , he had nothing to do with the ever increasing payroll taxes, so why should he lower the tax?

I'll give you Katherine Harris's e-mail address if you would like to send her a love letter.

Thanks, but no thanks, I don't want to break up the Harris/Jeb Bush affair.

119 posted on 11/06/2002 2:54:03 PM PST by Tuco-bad
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To: Tuco-bad
Because ONLY rich people buy your product, you want the rich to have more money to buy more of your product.

Yes. That allows me to hire "working people" that then can go and spend their paychecks on things which keeps other businesses going. You see?

a.cricket

120 posted on 11/06/2002 5:13:36 PM PST by another cricket
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