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To: gore3000; All
Attention, Everyone!

We have a Nobel-class Freeper with us! I refer you to Gore3000's post 715 to this very thread. Behold:

I know better what his discovery proves than what Dr. Baltimore said.

Shall we repeat that again, to help it sink in? I'll try increasing the font size, too.

I know better what his discovery proves than what Dr. Baltimore said.

Wow! This should really be in "Breaking News," doncha think?

And as we say in advertising, "But wait, there's more!" Check this out:

I supported my position, Dr. Baltimore did not support his view of how the discovery backs up evolution.

It apparently needs to be re-stated, for those of us compelled to post in blue, that in no place, at no time, did Dr. Baltimore ever claim his discovery "backs up evolution."

The whole extent of the evidence is against evolution and Dr. Baltimore did not say anywhere how his discovery proved evolution.

Your assessment of the evidence against evolution remains unconvincing.

Baltimore didn't say "how his discovery proved evolution," because he a) Wasn't trying to prove evolution, and b) He probably understands, as you obviously refuse to, that one does not prove theories.

In consecutive sentences, you've asserted that Baltimore has failed to either "back up" or "prove" evolution. Using the same distortion twice did not make it any more convincing. It is possible, given your somewhat eccentric view of mathematics, that you might believe something of zero credence would double its effectiveness in the second stating, but most of us believe that 2 x 0 = 0. (That would be a "zero" on the right side of the "equal" sign with the same numeric value as the "zero" on the left side of the "equal" sign.

In fact both he and Hartwell said that they had to see how it might be possible to show that their discoveries were in accordance with evolution, nowhere did they say that they had proof that they were explainable by evolution.

Make that three times.

739 posted on 10/18/2002 7:48:14 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs
We have a Nobel-class Freeper with us!

It's a thrill just to lurk here.

740 posted on 10/18/2002 7:52:34 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Gumlegs
I know better what his discovery proves than what Dr. Baltimore said. -me-

Shall we repeat that again, to help it sink in?

Yup, Baltimore himself stated that his comment about his discovery "It will be the work of at least the next half-century to fully comprehend the magnificence of the DNA edifice build over 4 billion years of evolution." In other words he cannot back up his assumption that this is explainable by evolution and he does not even think that it can be shown in his lifetime.

Hartwell again shows that his claim is an assumption and that he is going to try to find the answer to how possibly such a thing could have arisen through evolution "My laboratory is beginning a new research program aimed at studying how molecular circuits support evolution." In other words he has no proof of his assumption either.

Therefore the only valid scientific explanation at this time, the only one supported by science is that DNA was intelligently designed and evolutionists have absolutely no evidence supporting the evolutionary development of such systems. In fact, developmental biologists call the process by which the human organism develops from conception to birth a program. Programs cannot be constructed or altered at random as evolution claims it works.

So yes, my statement is correct and neither you nor any of your friends can disprove any of the evidence or any of the interpretations I have given for that evidence. Neither you nor any evolutionist has or can give evidence showing that any of these systems could have arisen in an evolutionary manner. I have given evidence how according to Darwin's own test for the truth of evolutionary theory, these systems could not have arisen in an evolutionary way. So laugh all you like, you are just a buffoon who cannot even discuss the facts and must try to discredit them by attacking the messenger.

741 posted on 10/18/2002 8:31:08 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: Gumlegs
>>We have a Nobel-class Freeper with us!<<

What!?!? Yassir Arafat is here?!? Or did you mean Jimmy.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but when you're not preaching to the choir, your posts only expose your own tunnel vision. Is it so hard for you to imagine that there are people out there who don’t have a lot of respect for the Nobel or those who achieve it? It takes more than a nobel for someone to get my attention.

And disagreeing with a nobel winner does not make one wrong. In this country, I feel free to disagree with a nobel winner EVEN ON THE TOPIC FOR WHICH HE WON THE AWARD, especially if I can demonstrate that my position MAY have credibility, as Gore3000 has done in numerous posts.

You just refuse to listen, for reasons not necessarily unknown.

Your entire post can be reduced to “name calling,” pure and simple. Did I miss something? Was the debate over? Did someone win?

“They’re trying to find themselves an audience. Their deductions need applause.”
-- Genesis, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
765 posted on 10/18/2002 9:38:34 AM PDT by RobRoy
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