After I mentioned that Stalin (who used to be a big creationoid poster-boy) was opposed to Darwin's teachings, a certain blue-posting creationoid said this:
You point to Stalin as if he was the only Communist that ever lived. Communism did and still promotes materialistic evolution. Stalin's attack on Darwinism was the passing fancy of an insane man who killed not just Darwinians, but religious people. A man who killed not only those of other nationalities, but his own Georgian people. A man who killed not only those opposing Communism, but also his own Communist friends who fought side by side with him in establishing that atheistic doctrine on his nation.How often in the past, when the creationoids would try to smear evolution by bringing up Hitler, did we say that Hitler was a nutcase, and that his occasional references to the struggle for survival prove nothing at all. Yet the creationoids continued to bring up Hitler, as if his crimes actually proved something about evolution. Now, however, they use the exact rebuttal we used, only this time they use it for Stalin. Intellectual dishonesty?
290 posted on 10/13/02 9:41 AM Eastern by gore3000
We should also mention that Hitler -- also a favorite poster-boy of the creationoids, is no longer mentioned much, now that he's been exposed as a creationist.
He has? I have been doing some reading on this and I haven't seen anything stating that he was a Creationist. Sure, from time to time he tossed a few quotes around to appease the religious folks. But remember, above all he was a liar and propaganist, telling people what they wanted to hear. And considering 90% of the people, just as they are now, were religious -- well, you figure it out. Here's an article that may help to clarify:
And an excerpt from that article: Dr. Bergman’s conclusion: “The evidence is very clear that Darwinian ideas had a tremendous impact on German thought and practice.... In fact, Darwinian ideas had a tremendous influence on causing WWII, the loss of 40 million lives, and the waste of about 6 trillion 1945 dollars. Firmly convinced that evolution was true, Hitler saw himself as the modern savior of mankind.... By breeding a superior race, the world would look upon him as the man who pulled humanity up to a higher level of evolution.”
Why someone would coin the greatest mass-murderer of modern times as a Creationist is beyond me. It truly shows just how far atheists will go in order to advance their pseudo-scientific theory. What a sad, sad world you people live in.
MM
It was not 'occasional references' it was the basis of his whole agenda - an agenda that was enforced by numerous people. Stalin's anti-Darwinism was only a passing fancy. Further, other numerous Communist mass murderers have and continue to embrace evolution as a basis for their philosophy.
Further, in spite of your claims of conservatism, patriotism, freedom, etc. your philosophy is a leftist philosophy which by demeaning human life excuses tyranny, destruction and inhumanity.
you're nuts---
still think the Pope--Catholic Church accepts evolution too!
Evolution warps/twists--rots...there is no you/soul left---whacked--whacko!