Posted on 10/11/2002 9:02:01 PM PDT by gore3000
"Ape-ancestry rejectionism? Tough! That's the way it happened."
There is a long section in Darwin's work when he considers the evidence, pro and con, about whether the negro was a separate species. Despite the almost universal racism of the times, affecting Englishmen and Americans (and probably the rest of the world too), Darwin refused to conclude that the negro was of a different species from the white man. In this, he showed remarkable intellectual fortitude, and his work can indeed be given some credit for our currently enlightened views on race. This is a much more defensable position than blaming Darwin -- by all accounts a gentle soul -- for the evils of Hitler.
No. It's simply the best explanation for the evidence.
I don't know what's so complicated about my statement. You postulate " the Designer exists". No observations. No evidence. I don't recognize a scientific process. It's plain old theology.
I say it because you don't recognize any scientific process. You discount observational evidence and you have no statement of your alternate theory. You hang your hat on "evolution is wrong", and deny any evidence presented to you.
Even your examples aren't "disproofs", although you call them that. What is your scientific background?
And why would he have any trouble discerning that? Nearly 2000 years before this story reaffirmed that man was man.(even eunuchs)
Act 8:27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,
Act 8:28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.
Act 8:29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.
Act 8:30 And Philip ran thither to [him], and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
Act 8:31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
Act 8:32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
Act 8:33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
Act 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
Act 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
Act 8:36 And as they went on [their] way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, [here is] water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Act 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
I sat dumbfounded for a minute or two as I read your reply. What is going on here? There has to be more to it than that.
Of course we cannot make direct obervations of the designer (God of the Bible in this theory), but if He is the desinger then certain things ought to be confirmed. If they are confirmed, then it increases the probability that the theory is correct.
Here is an analogy that fits your answer: We walk into a room and find a body. I say, "Its a murder". You say, "Its a natural death, suicide, or an accident. I don't see any murderer here, therefore, no murder". We inspect more closely. The body is bound and gagged, the money and jewelry are missing, and the person died from multiple gunshot wounds, though no gun is found. I say, "I have a theory that this person was murdered" You say, "That is not a scientific theory, because I don't see any murderer." In your worldview, we don't even start looking for the killer, just more evidence on how the "accident" occurred. Any suggestion we start looking for evidence to narrow the identity of the killer is dismissed out of hand.
That's trash, and you've got to know it.
I will lay odds, he doesn't.
f.C beat me too it! Your visceral, emotial reactions are irrelevant to the universe.
Stop me before I fergit spel chekur agin!
....crackpots that would make great a reat jury for another O.J. Simpson trial....
...and we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!
Are you Tolkien to me?
I didn't say direct observation, I said evidence.
What observations provide evidence that "the Designer" is the most obvious way to understand biology? This is how science works.
You're not missing anything.
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