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The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Special Extended DVD Edition
The Digital Bits ^ | October 2, 2002 | Bill Hunt

Posted on 10/07/2002 11:39:26 AM PDT by Paul Atreides

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To: Sam Cree
"Hi, Destructor"

"Yes, it's just a book, but there's probably more relevance to the current world situation in LOTR than many realize. Written by a combat vereran of WWI, during WWII, the book clearly and eloquently describes the struggle of civilization against horror and darkness, of good versus evil. There's plenty of stupid fantasy movies and books around, but LOTR isn't one of them. LOTR is really literature, an example of the beauty that our Western civilization can produce."

Howdy Sam,

Sorry man, but REALITY is still more relevant to the current world situation than LOTR! Some of these folks seem to have a little trouble with that concept. So, it's up to Destructor to slap 'em around a little bit, and bring 'em back to reality! Thanks for the trivia. That's interesting.

121 posted on 10/08/2002 5:25:01 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Paul Atreides
"It must be a sad existence for you, having an obviously low level of intelligence, and no imagination. There is an old saying that applies to you, perfectly: "It is better to keep your mouth shut, and be thought a fool, rather than to open it, and remove all doubt."

You could profit from the advice that you so freely offer, Hobbit boy!

122 posted on 10/08/2002 5:32:49 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Alouette
I like Wagner. Don't let the Elders of Zion find out or they'll take away my black helicopter.

LOL. Do not worry, I won't tell. Just promise me to give the helicopter ride.

123 posted on 10/08/2002 5:33:02 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
But who could play younger Bilbo?

Warwick Davis.

124 posted on 10/08/2002 6:02:27 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: Paul Atreides
I can tell from YOUR profile that you're one of those suburban yuppie types that never outgrew "Dungeons and Dragons." I'll bet you're such and extreme geek that you probably get together with your geek buddies (in costume) and play "D&D" every Saturday night! It's obvious from your profile that reality doesn't have much of a place in your little world.
125 posted on 10/08/2002 6:14:02 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Destructor
I also told you in that post to go pee on someone else's rug. That represents my opinion of both the quality and welcomeness of your input to me. Please don't post to me again.
126 posted on 10/08/2002 6:14:32 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Princeliberty
As for the meaning of Tolkien's tale Tolkien was mainly writing to Christians to tell them how they must by faith fight evil in this world and defeat it. So it goes beyond any single evil force like Iraq and really goes to the entire struggle against evil and the kingdom of Satan.

Each reader probably interprets the tale differently. Way back, I was a Tolkien fan to the point where I even referred to the Silmarillion (still here on my shelf. I guess that makes me a complete and total geek). To me, both the Hobbit and LOTR were stories about the adventure of life from birth to old age. Both Bilbo and Frodo begin in the safety of their hobbit holes (representing the innocence of childhood), and then each must move on, accepting new challenges and taking risks (adolescence and adulthood). The ring represents all that we desire but reveals how we are prone to greed and selfishness and how we often fight with our inner selves. In the end, they are wiser and reminiscent (old age). Actually, it has been so long that I forget the exact ending to LOTR; that's why these movies are a big treat for me.

127 posted on 10/08/2002 6:28:28 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: HairOfTheDog
You can dish it out, but you can't take it! There's a big surprise.
128 posted on 10/08/2002 6:49:26 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Destructor; HairOfTheDog
You can dish it out, but you can't take it! There's a big surprise.

Hair can take a hell of a lot more than you know. It's just that clymers like you are annoying to all of us.

129 posted on 10/08/2002 7:03:12 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Destructor
You can dish it out, but you can't take it! There's a big surprise.

You know, I have to wonder...what exactly do you get out of this?

130 posted on 10/08/2002 7:04:36 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Destructor
Can't take it? - Or choose not to pollute my world with it? Turns out, in addition to politics, a number of us share an interest in a book. And we get a lot of enjoyment out of talking about it.

And I am no pro at dishing anything out. Because I don't come here to pick fights with people, I come to FreeRepublic to hang around people I agree with. I get no joy from just throwing stink bombs at people (because I am a stable and happy person), but if I did want to run around throwing stink bombs, I wouldn't do it at a conservative site. Your behavior seems awfully counter-productive if you are actually on the conservative side.

And I am a grownup, who gets to choose who she talks to. Now that I have made myself clearer, perhaps you will realize that I am just bored and repulsed by you, but you are not close enough for me to have been hurt by your pointless trolling.

And I will not respond to you again.

131 posted on 10/08/2002 7:10:17 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Corin Stormhands; RosieCotton
All this talk of dishing out is making me hungry!
132 posted on 10/08/2002 7:12:14 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Alouette; ksen; rightwingreligiousfanatic; JenB; HairOfTheDog
It's my opinion that the ideals represented in LOTR (good vs. evil, loyalty, self-sacrifice) are universal and that there is nothing about the story or the characters that are uniquely Christian.

Well, to Christians, the story of good vs. evil is uniquely Christian.

I don't mean to preach, and I'm not trying to be offensive. I can and do respect other belief systems, while believing that they are wrong. As a Christian, I am compelled by Christ's words to believe that there is only one way to the Father.

Like I said, Tolkien was influenced by a lot of works. He was a brilliant and very well read individual. But, also like I said, Tolkien himself did not intend LOTR to be allegorical but said that being a Christian his faith would certainly influence his world view.

133 posted on 10/08/2002 7:12:46 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog; RosieCotton
All this talk of dishing out is making me hungry!

Same here. Let's go see if RMD has second breakfast ready...

134 posted on 10/08/2002 7:14:43 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: HairOfTheDog
Good response on that other thread!

I doubt he'll respond, though. I don't think he/she is looking for reasonable arguments. You're no fun! ;-)

135 posted on 10/08/2002 7:15:33 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton
Oops...meant to post this in the Hole...got lost. I'll wander back now!
136 posted on 10/08/2002 7:16:10 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton
Hobbits are not typically good with maps... or direction.
137 posted on 10/08/2002 7:20:22 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hobbits are not typically good with maps... or direction.

Is that my problem?

Oh, wait...must live in reality...reality...reality...

138 posted on 10/08/2002 7:32:20 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton
LOL!
139 posted on 10/08/2002 7:32:53 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Corin Stormhands
A Christian wrote it, and wrote it with his faith being a big part of who he was... but the message is so fundamental that no one has to preach anything for all of us to see true good, and feel what true evil is.

I disagree with pushing the story that hard as a soley Christian work Corin.... I am instead glad that the story offers so much to so many, and helps us all to strengthen in our character and our faith, in whatever way brings us peace.

140 posted on 10/08/2002 8:39:52 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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