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[William McKinley]

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[Sam Cree]

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Monday bump.

[Sam Cree]

Blam, do you think the pyramids in Egypt are alot older than 4-5000 years. Sorry for veering off topic for a second.

[blam]

"Blam, do you think the pyramids in Egypt are alot older than 4-5000 years. Sorry for veering off topic for a second."

I suspect that they are...for sure the Sphinx=9,000-10,000 years old.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Thanks for the ping, Sam! It was a very interesting article.

I think pushing the first arrival of humans in the Americas back to an earlier time is likely to push the earliest devlopments of human civilization back to an earlier time, as well. For myself, I've always had a hard time believing that modern humans have been wandering over Earth for some 250,000 years, and yet all of human civilization is supposed to have only existed for about 5,000 years. The idea that it took humans 245,000 years or so to develop agriculture and then in the next 5,000 years we develop technology to the point where we can travel to the moon just seems silly to me.

[Sam Cree]

The idea that it took humans 245,000 years or so to develop agriculture and then in the next 5,000 years we develop technology to the point where we can travel to the moon just seems silly to me.

When you put it that way it does sound ridiculous.

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

My own pet theory (based on nothing, other than an assessment of human intelligence and ability) is that there have probably been several periods of human civilization... some perhaps as advanced as the Middle Ages we are familiar with. As to where they went, I think it likely they were destroyed by various natural calamities, such as plague, climate change, volcanic activity, even asteroid strikes.

We're probably overdue for some such calamity in our own civilization....

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Calico: A 200,000-Year-Old Site In The Americas?

[SW6906]

Long, but interesting read. Thanks.

[blam]

"I think it likely they were destroyed by various natural calamities, such as plague, climate change, volcanic activity, even asteroid strikes.

"We're probably overdue for some such calamity in our own civilization...."

I agree 100%

Did Asteroids And Comets Turn The Tides Of Civilization?

[Bear_in_RoseBear]

Thanks for the links, they were both interesting to read!

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GGG ping.

This article pretty much sums up the way I view things.

[blam]

Workers Find 7,500-Year-Old Civilization While Building Water Plant (Mass.)

[farmfriend]

Gods, Graves, Glyphs
List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.

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[greenwolf]

"We're probably overdue for some such calamity in our own civilization...."

I agree 100%

I'd bet very heavily against it. Even Velikovsky and his followers never tried to claim that cosmic disasters were likely in our own times. In fact, if memory serves, Velikovsky claimed that the incidents of short-period comets, volcanism, and earthquakes, the three most major lingering effects of recent catastrophes (according to his theory) had been damping exponentially since Roman times and that with every year which goes by, the odds of anything like that happening again decrease significantly. Again if memory serves that was in "Earth in Upheaval".

According to that view cosmic mishaps aren't something which happens randomly every million years or so but something which we saw a whole lot of about 3000 years ago but which there is about zero chance of happening again in the forseeable future.

On the other hand if you go with traditional theories, then you don't really figure it's time again after 65 million years; more likely you take the mean time between such incidents (70 million years or whatever) and divide by half, and you'd figure the next such event was about 30 million years in the future, starting from today.

I'm not losing any sleep over it.

[JimSEA]

Some good articles. I just finished Hancock's "Underworld: The Mysterious Origins of Civilizations" (raises some good questions but needs a lot more work) and ordered "Eden in the East: The Drowned Continent of Southeast Asia". It should be fun.

[Mercat]

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