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To: Eagle Eye
Dammit, why do you have to go using my own words against me?

Do you have any IDEA the grief I suffered when I stated that not ALL slavery is immoral? I gotta find that 2 year old thread and sic all those peeps on you that tore my @$$ up. hehe

However, I do believe that the majority of southern slave owners were immoral in their ownership. This is proven by their treatment of blacks after their freedom. They refused to see them as equal human beings. God never stated that slave owners could look at their slaves as less that human. They were still equal, just under a certain type of servitude.

Another reason I believe it was immoral was that slaveowners owned the children of the slaves as well.

In the Bible, slaves were taken as a result of conquering a nation, or tribe, and or as a result of debt.
61 posted on 09/26/2002 7:35:58 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
I gotta find that 2 year old thread and sic all those peeps on you that tore my @$$ up. hehe

Don't worry, I've met some of them.

You'll find OT instructions regarding the treatment of families and children of slaves. Sometimes the master got to keep them per God's instructions.

Ever read Philemon?

69 posted on 09/26/2002 7:47:07 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: Texaggie79
Yes, the great sin of Southern slavery, in my opinion, was not so much the slavery (though I am personally opposed to it) but the racism inherent with it. Indeed, without racism the whole system would have collapsed. The idea that blacks were subservient to whites was what allowed slavery to exist alongside very heartfelt beliefs on liberty and freedom. The legacy of this racism, and not so much the slavery (though the two are closely tied of course) is I think the great tragedy of the American South.
80 posted on 09/26/2002 7:58:39 PM PDT by Cleburne
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To: Texaggie79
"However, I do believe that the majority of southern slave owners were immoral in their ownership. This is proven by their treatment of blacks after their freedom. They refused to see them as equal human beings. God never stated that slave owners could look at their slaves as less that human. They were still equal, just under a certain type of servitude."

You are very wrong here. The slave owners were aristocrats who's lifestyles were only slightly threatened by extinquishing slavery:

"Slavery is likely to be abolished by the war power and this I and my friends are in favor of, for slavery is but the owning of labor and carries with it the care of the laborers, while the European plan, led on by England, is that capital shall control labor by controlling wages. The great debt that capitalists will see to it is made out of the war must be used as a means to control the volume of money."

Private circular of Northern banker, late 1861.

The ones of which you speak were not slave owners. The descendants of slave owners were not those who hung civil rights activists in Missippi. They were the rank and file rednecks who had to feel like they were better than something and they could only single out blacks. Turns out they were not better than anything, certainly not better than the black people I have known who have worked for my mother in my house, worked for me in financial services, and whom I have worked for in bank auditing.

84 posted on 09/26/2002 8:03:22 PM PDT by groanup
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