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To: Pharmboy; MacDorcha; Drammach; BenLurkin
Read this thread. Dr Elizabeth Barber, in her book, The Mummies Of Urumchi,connect these folks to the Celts of Hallstadt, Austria.
Professor Victor Mair, in his book, The Tarim Mummies, Believes these people spoke Tocharian (an Indo-European language) and is closest related to an ancient form of Celtic languages.

Genetic Testing Awkward Truth About Xinjiang's Famous Mummies (Caucasian)

81 posted on 04/20/2005 10:48:51 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Thanks for the link.. I had read that, and was wondering about it..
Cronos had mentioned runic in an earlier post, (last year I guess) and I had been wondering about a link to the Celts and runic.. whether runic had close ties to the Celts..

So, here are the Celts, invading Etruscan lands, and what do I find about Runic?

Note the tree's descent is: Etruscan, N. Italic, Runic-Germanic... (This is the "Elder" runic.)
Then it splits into "Younger" runic, and A.S.(Anglo-Saxon) Runic..

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The (runic) article places it's beginnings about 200 BCE...

The Celtic origins article places the Celts in Etruscan territories about 400 BCE..
The Xinjiang Mummies article is talking about a people that existed in that area from about 2,000 BCE to 1,000 BCE.. quite a time frame..
Then we have Yingpan man, in apparent greek style death mask, and western burial garb, a contemporary of the Celts, Etruscans and Romans at the time of the Po Valley invasions.. approximately 2,000 years ago..

It would appear that while some "proto celts" remained in the near east, (Xinjiang, Yingpan) the influx of asain and mongoloid ( is there distinction there? I think there is.. ) caused at least SOME celts to migrate west.. some probably went West toward the Bosphorus straits and Bulgaria, and met the Etruscans, some went northwest, through the Caucasus Mts, into Russia, Ukraine, Romania, etc.. spreading throughout europe..

At this point I'm blathering, but I now see a tie-in with The Celts, and Runic forms.. and I can see their origins... Etruscan and N. Italic..
A culture with no tradition of written language meets a "civilization" WITH written language..

Result, a bastardised form of writing made to conform to an already existing language form..
A concept so alien to the culture it was perceived, at least initially, as having "magical" properties..

Well I'll leave it there, and let you guys tear my little theory apart..
Please,.. Be Gentle.. And Respect Me in the morning..

82 posted on 04/20/2005 1:43:36 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: blam

I have read Mummies of Urumchi. (I have a wonderful girlfriend :)

Looked for Tarim Mummies. Little shy one cash right now though.

It IS nice to see that China allowed the testing though. They wouldn't for a long time I know.


86 posted on 04/20/2005 3:14:03 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Where Rush dares not tread, there are the Freepers!)
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