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To: Devil_Anse
"They are very specific, and number the conditions which have not been followed. They only include what they can prove."

I have no doubt that you are correct. Apparently, what could be proved was that Ricci had not attended some sort of "treatment program." What I did not see proved, nor listed among his offenses, were any charges related to current drug use.

As to why this issue is important to me, my reasons are twofold. One, it has been speculated by some that an ongoing, active addiction to an illicit drug would have made Ricci more likely to have committed this crime. I have no problem with such speculation, as long as an ongoing, active addiction has been documented. Two, I don't like to see anything accepted and discussed as "fact" on here without proper documentation.

268 posted on 09/27/2002 8:53:52 PM PDT by freedox
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To: freedox
I think if Ricci had had an unlimited source of heroin--which of course would require lots and lots of money--and had just used it freely, he wouldn't have been able to hold his job even for the month or 6 weeks that he did, and I don't think he'd have been up for burglary, abduction, or anything else.

Like most people stuck with this stuff as a craving, I imagine he used when he could afford it. I have wondered if someone at Neth's might have been a source, and if Ricci would periodically put up his jeep for "security" to get heroin which he would then pay for as soon as he got the money.

You know what? In that 29-yr rap sheet, I don't recall reading of any charges of possession of any drug. He apparently managed to not ever get caught with anything. Does this, to you, indicate that he never illegally used drugs?
275 posted on 09/27/2002 9:06:09 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: freedox
About facts w/o proper documentation, sometimes people are trying to prove a negative, such as prove there was no gun. I don't see how you can prove there was no gun.

I just look at all the info from the media, and try to pick the most likely thing. In the case of the gun, though it's been reported more than once, it's seldom been elaborated on. I tend to doubt there was really a gun, just as you do, but I know I couldn't prove that there was no gun, from what we have to look at.
277 posted on 09/27/2002 9:09:34 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: freedox
How about involvement in transporting, selling, or producing illegal drugs? (Marijuana, methamphetamine lab, "mule" to carry cocaine or heroin, etc.)

The idea that Ricci was involved in the above is one of the few good non-Elizabeth explanations for why he steadfastly refused to tell where the jeep was, and why he so strenuously denied taking it out of Neth's.
279 posted on 09/27/2002 9:12:43 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: freedox
"What I did not see proved, nor listed among his offenses, were any charges related to current drug use."

Did you ever bother reading this? This is current drug use!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,56167,00.html

"Colmes: All right, it was also reported today that this was a man who told his parole officer he was in a substance abuse program, but then it turned out he was not in a substance abuse program."

This is Devil_Anse' post 234, do you get it this time?

282 posted on 09/27/2002 9:19:42 PM PDT by Sherlock
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