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To: Sherlock
I don't think Ricci was the kidnapper, do you?

At times I think Ricci was the kidnapper. We have only the word of a KNOWN LIAR, Angela, to account for his whereabouts from approximately 8 p.m. June 4, to 8 a.m. June 5. Oh, well, we've also got the word of another KNOWN THIEF/BURGLAR/DECEIVER--Ricci himself--to account for that 12 hour period.

Why do I call Angela a known liar? Two reasons: first, she was convicted of forgery in the past. That sort of deception is a species of lying, in my book--and according to the general law of evidence, too. Second, I've seen with my own eyes, Angela tell one story on a question in one TV interview, then tell another story on the very same question, in another TV interview.

Jandji makes a good point that Ricci's mustache would be very distinctive. While I know of no public pictures of Ricci from the month of June, to show if he had a mustache at that time, it really looks like he probably always wears it. But then many people have come to the conclusion that Mary K. never really got a look at the kidnapper's face, in which case she wouldn't have seen the mustache anyway.

What, really, do we know that would definitely rule out that Ricci went into that house that night? The description has some problems, but the description has never been very clear thanks to the obfuscation by the Smarts and the police. Which brings me to another possibility which I sometimes consider: that maybe Elizabeth's father is somehow involved. How sad that would be.

If I had to vote just on whether it was Ed or Rick, though, I'm still leaning more towards Rick. If I were a juror of his (and he still alive) though, with only what I know as the evidence, I'd have to acquit him. There's not enough known to us, the public, to decide this question either way.

153 posted on 09/27/2002 10:57:44 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
I don't think Ricci was the person that went in the house and took Elizabeth. But by the fact it was his M.O. having broken into the neighbor's house in the middle of the night, used the pistol in the bank robbery, and bragged to his friends what an easy place the Smart house is to knock off, and his inability to explain his actions with the Jeep (or even acknowledge he had the Jeep) or tell LE who he left Moul's Repair Shop with on Jun 8, it's pretty obvious he was an accomplice in the crime.

Ricci knew where Elizabeth's bedroom was, probably had a key to the house and knew how to get in if he didn't (like the neighbor's sliding door, he bragged to his friends it was easy to knock off), had the pistol from previous crime, and had the idea to give to the accomplice. I think Ricci was probably the 2nd vehicle that met the kidnapper in Shriner's parking lot. Don't forget also Ricci was seen leaving Moul's on Jun 8 with this man that fits the same description given by the milkman, the convenience store video, the security man at Shriner's, MK, the searchers in Emigration Canyon, and the hikers at the pig roast pit.
164 posted on 09/27/2002 12:15:57 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Devil_Anse
Which brings me to another possibility which I sometimes consider: that maybe Elizabeth's father is somehow involved. How sad that would be.

I know there are those who would disagree but I think that if Ed was involved LE would have been discovered it by now. He doesn't seem like the kind of person who could hold up to tough questioning if he had something to hide. Seasoned criminals are best at not breaking under intense questioning. Ricci's refusal to account for his vehicle is an example of that. Most John Q Citizens would crack or slip up some how. In fact I think Ed would probably fare worse than the average Joe based on what we've seen of him.

175 posted on 09/27/2002 1:10:46 PM PDT by sandude
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To: Devil_Anse
just based on the 'eyewitness' account alone, ricci is innocent. and based on that fact, a real lawyer given half a chance in utah court, could win a multi-million dollar libel suit against the smart clan.
317 posted on 09/28/2002 3:21:46 AM PDT by jandji
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