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To: Ahban
I just don't think we can impose a good government on a craven people.

They are craven because they are under Hussein's thumb.

A good government will eventually make a good people.

60 posted on 09/24/2002 7:13:36 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
There was a serious revolt against Saddam right after Desert Storm. Hundreds, if not thousands of Iraqis died for it. Uday, his eldest son and a real sadist, was the target of a car bomb several years ago. Unfortunately, he lived though badly injured and got even. It's not that the Iraqis haven't tried, they just haven't been able to pull it off, and the price for trying and failing is horrible. Your family pays too.
63 posted on 09/24/2002 7:20:39 PM PDT by xJones
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To: sinkspur
A good government will eventually make a good people.

I am sorry, but I mostly disagree. It sounds like something Karl Marx would say. I am more in line with founding father William Penn, "There has never been for very long a good people with a bad government or a bad people with a good government.

When they wanted to make Him King from the outside first, Jesus went and hid Himself, yet He wants to be King in our Hearts. The outide can then follow.

71 posted on 09/24/2002 7:31:39 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: sinkspur
This reply is not related to the subject at hand, but isn't this (a good govt, will eventually make a good people) the centerpiece or possibly scripture to liberal/socialists??? The govt is the reflection of its citizens ideals, not vice versa, at least in my view. Just a thought.
138 posted on 09/24/2002 8:15:54 PM PDT by jeremiah
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To: sinkspur
A good government will eventually make a good people.

Woah! Are you sure you don't want to reconsider this statement? Can you cite any historical examples of same?

183 posted on 09/24/2002 8:37:40 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: sinkspur
"A good government will eventually make a good people."

Far be it from me, a very limited poster and virtual unknown, to question this, but...
do you really think that governments make the character of a people? Shouldnt it be the other way around?

345 posted on 09/24/2002 9:58:11 PM PDT by Villiany_Inc
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To: sinkspur
A good government will eventually make a good people.

That was George Orwell who said that,wasn't it?

386 posted on 09/24/2002 10:18:05 PM PDT by kennyo
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