[rb22982]

~smirk~
What you said is not about libertarians, but about LP leadership, and I'm not going to argue with you, it's the main reason I'm not a member. A more convincing argument would be to actually give me part of their platform that is diliusionary (not just a contrary opinion)

[VaBthang4]

I didnt give a contrary "opinion" I asked for one [1] Libertarian who has been "elected" and done anything notable about the size of the Federal Government.

If that hasnt happened then they are dilusionary in thinking that anything else they want to do is remotely possible.

Even crackpot Liberals and Socialists can get elected. If the Libertarian party has any fallowing of substance, any amount of support then why havent they been able to get anything accomplished?

Either they after being in existence for many years now, do not have the support....which is a pretty good indicator of how competent their platform is...or they have the support but dont do anything to change the status quo. Which is it?