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To: freedox
Yes, there is a possibility that Elizabeth left voluntarily. If she did, it's possible:

-that the man wheedled and tricked her out of the house by leading her to believe it was just for a moment, or "just get me out the door, I'm afraid of tripping the alarm, and you know the code, don't you?" And, since this person was supposedly familiar (voicewise) to Mary K., no doubt he was also familiar to Elizabeth--less fear, more likelihood of trusting him.

-that the whole thing was prearranged, and it was a friend of Elizabeth's, teenaged or adult. I thought this for a while b/c I thought that when Elizabeth said, "are you kidnapping me," perhaps she was reminding the person of "his lines"--if the whole abduction thing was done for the benefit of fooling Mary K.

But if either of those scenarios happened, WHERE THE HELL IS SHE? Much as some, such as Varina, believe that she could be sheltered to this day by someone, I just don't see how her voluntary exit wouldn't have been figured out by someone. Also, if someone helped her get out of a bad situation, it would have to be someone who knew her--so it would be someone known to people around her. Why is no person from her area missing, or looking like they have a big secret?
964 posted on 09/25/2002 6:38:55 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
And, since this person was supposedly familiar (voicewise) to Mary K., no doubt he was also familiar to Elizabeth--less fear, more likelihood of trusting him.

Let's look at this......

Familiar with the voice (both girls)...

I believe they led a pretty sheltered life being that they were 9 and 14. They were active in their Ward functions (is that how to say it? ), and had a sizable family and extended family that they apparently were close to.

Functions they attended, because of their age were chaperoned by the parents, and Elizabeth did not date and was not interested in boys....

What voice, and person would that leave to be familiar with, so that if arroused in the night by this person, and talked to..she would quietly get up..get her shoes and leave?

What voice and person would be familiar with MK, so that she would not scream and wait 2-3 hours before saying anything to her parents? DID THE PERSON TELL HER THAT THE PARENTS SAID IT WAS OK ? (remember she is 9 )...

968 posted on 09/25/2002 6:48:21 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Devil_Anse
Also, if someone helped her get out of a bad situation, it would have to be someone who knew her--so it would be someone known to people around her.

Yep

969 posted on 09/25/2002 6:50:19 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Devil_Anse
"WHERE THE HELL IS SHE? Why is no person from her area missing, or looking like they have a big secret?"

Excellent questions......those seem to be the stumpers!! Here's a thought.....and it is ONLY a thought, so bear with me. Remember the first sketch that the police released of the man with a missing tooth? Elizabeth had reportedly had some contact with this man at a "social function." That struck me as odd......the man looked rough, not in keeping with the type of people I would assume Elizabeth typically socialized with. Is it possible that Elizabeth had made the acquaintance of someone who was far outside her social circle? Someone who knew how to "get lost" and who would not be missed himself? Someone who the family would view as being a very real DANGER to their daughter's safety? Just a thought.....

971 posted on 09/25/2002 6:52:01 PM PDT by freedox
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