The same kooks you are talking about - you know the Ricci lovers on this thread - are the very same ones who were touting a "poll" on one of the Westerfield threads which indicated 90% of the participants thought Westerfield was innocent. If I were one of them I would hang my head in shame after the news that came out of San Diego today about a Westerfield plea bargain underway when the body was found. These people are INCREDIBLY STUPID, yet they rant and rave about the virtues of the Riccis. PATHETIC. And we are supposed to be tolerant of such stupidity - yeah, right!