[cherry]

no devil..varina's point is that the public was given a perhaps tinted version of Lizzie for the first few weeks....a quiet, shy girl, almost baby-faced, who was "obediant"....most certainly a virgin..I think Sherlock stated that and I don't have a clue how she knows this.....a talented girl who never had any interest in boys and never used the internet...just never....

so the fact that perhaps Lizzie was a little more "normal" like other 14 year old girls, with painted nails and pretty, attractive pj's is relevant to know exactly who Lizzie Smart IS...

[Devil_Anse]

None of us know anything, really, about Elizabeth, except that she played the harp, was well-loved, and got awards for school. Varina knows no more of Elizabeth than does Sherlock. I refuse to blame Elizabeth for this even if she did act slutty and/or run away. I don't really think she acted slutty--there are no signs of it. She was only 14. Ashley Pond had had sex lots of times, she was, what, 13, and as far as I'm concerned, Ashley was 100% innocent, and not to blame in any way for her fate. I think the same of Elizabeth and just about anyone else that age.

[TXLady]

I agree with you, I don't think the discussion on the pj's was anything but to point out that she was after all a normal teen-ager and it was not intended to make her appear "slutty". Certainly she was not at fault for her own kidnapping. That would be a ridiculous assumption given the circumstances that we know. Also it would be agreeing with the idiots that still think that when a woman is raped it is because she "wanted it to happen".