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Elizabeth Smart thread, September 5, 2002-?

Posted on 09/04/2002 8:39:12 PM PDT by IamHD

ES missing since 6-5-2002 and will have been missing for 3 months in a few hours, so I thought that this would be an approriate time to start a new thread.


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To: Palladin
What docile obedient Mormon wife would dare to contradict such an alibi?

What alternate reality did you beam in from today Palladin?

381 posted on 09/06/2002 6:46:33 PM PDT by sandude
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To: Devil_Anse
If Ricci had entered the Smart house the day b/f, to test the alarm, and the alarm went off, wouldn't the alarm company have a record of that?

That presupposes that the alarm was connected to an alarm company, which isn't likely since the Smarts didn't even bother to set it. More importantly, Ricci knew the Smarts lifestyle and habits from working in their home for two or three months. All he would have to do is show up a couple of times early and try the door. If he set off the alarm, he would just say Oooppps!

382 posted on 09/06/2002 6:46:42 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: Sherlock
The kidnapper wore a WHITE BASEBALL HAT!!

Are you sure Angela's brother didn't grab his fathers hat from above the sink on his way out of the trailer that night?

383 posted on 09/06/2002 6:48:44 PM PDT by sandude
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To: varina davis
NO! Mr. Smug, it because he's a molester of young girls in the proximity of his and the Smart's neighborhood -- something you apparently don't wish to concede.

My point was that there are probably child molesters who live closer than 5 miles to the Smarts. I hope that LE fully checks this guy out. If there is a connection discovered then we will all be able to discuss it.

384 posted on 09/06/2002 6:52:14 PM PDT by sandude
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To: varina davis
Are you prepared if they didn't?

Yes I am. Now answer my question. Are you prepared if the findings show that Richard, Angela, and other’s close to them committed this crime?

385 posted on 09/06/2002 6:53:52 PM PDT by sandude
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To: jengaio; Palladin; Neenah; lakey; spore-gasm
Wow... Spencer Dixon IS Bret Edmunds.

There is a marked resemblance. Maybe LE had their collective eye on this dude all along (with others) and his recent assault on the girl clinched it.

Also, wonder if it's possible a witness saw someone who resembled Edmunds, and thus the chase. But in reality is was this guy from a nearby neighborhood.

Who knows? Dixon could easily be in the Smart social or business circle.

386 posted on 09/06/2002 6:54:22 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: Sherlock
or a red, white & blue tatoo.

Where did this come from?

387 posted on 09/06/2002 6:55:02 PM PDT by sandude
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To: sandude
I hope that LE fully checks this guy out. If there is a connection discovered then we will all be able to discuss it.

Why wait? Everyone has discussed Ricci without a shred of actual connecting evidence.

388 posted on 09/06/2002 6:56:31 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
To Sherlock: Where did this come from?

Out of Sherbert's vivid imagination.

389 posted on 09/06/2002 6:57:49 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
I also think that they want to arrest all of the conspirators at once.

A question that has never been asked and should be, is "Could Ricci have pulled this off by himself?". The answer is yes. We know that he normally acted alone for his occupied home burglaries. We know that one of his robberies/burglaries was a year to the day before the ES abduction. When was Angela's birthday? What is the anniversary date of when they met? The dear, sweet, sensitive Ricci saw the need to filch something a year earlier and saw the need the following year on the same date. If we know what was significant about that date, we would know Ricci's motive. I'm sure LE knows the answer to that question.

390 posted on 09/06/2002 6:58:50 PM PDT by Jolly Green
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To: sandude
Are you prepared

How would you suggest one prepares? The truth is the truth. You can smash it, stomp it underground -- but it's still the truth.

391 posted on 09/06/2002 6:59:41 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: jo6pac
(What can we see?)

September 6, 2002

"Certainly we're closer to solving this case than we were when it began. We've done a lot of work on this," Dinse said. "We think we are eventually going to solve this." Dinse added investigators are still sifting through many leads -- and other potential suspects.

"We still have people we are looking at, some of them -- if not all of them -- are still centered around Ricci," Dinse said. "There are plenty of leads surrounding him that we are going through."

393 posted on 09/06/2002 7:01:53 PM PDT by sandude
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To: varina davis; All
Who knows? Dixon could easily be in the Smart social or business circle.

If this is true, BTW, then MK would have recognized his voice -- and maybe more.

Maybe it possible Ed Smart thinks his former buddy Ricci was in cahoots with the bishop somehow (after MK identified the voice), since Ed said this week he does not believe Ricci was in his home the night of the disappearance.

394 posted on 09/06/2002 7:02:54 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis
Everyone has discussed Ricci without a shred of actual connecting evidence.

No known solid evidence but plenty of circumstantial evidence. Have you got any of that on the former Bishop?

395 posted on 09/06/2002 7:06:32 PM PDT by sandude
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To: jengaio
Look, we're trying to work with you on this, but talk sense.

Put a sock in it, jen. I'm not asking anyone's permission to "work with" me. I'm just putting forth possibilities and theories.

396 posted on 09/06/2002 7:07:16 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
No known solid evidence but plenty of circumstantial evidence. Have you got any of that on the former Bishop?

Just what's been theorized here. Worth some exploration, one would think -- if one was thinking.

397 posted on 09/06/2002 7:09:40 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: Jolly Green
A question that has never been asked and should be, is "Could Ricci have pulled this off by himself?". The answer is yes.

Where do you think the Jeep was? It was definetly out of sight.

Where do you think Elizabeth was held or her body hidden? Both Thurber and Angela stated he was home early on the morning of the crime.

Why wouldn't Richard identify the man in the blue van? Because there is a good chance Elizabeth's body was in the back of that van on the evening of June 8th.

399 posted on 09/06/2002 7:11:41 PM PDT by sandude
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To: varina davis
How would you suggest one prepares?

First, admit that it is possible that Richard Ricci could have been involved in this crime. Can you admit this is a possiblity?

400 posted on 09/06/2002 7:13:29 PM PDT by sandude
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