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Elizabeth Smart thread, August 31-September 7, 2002

Posted on 08/31/2002 10:26:34 AM PDT by IamHD

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To: sandude
You're right. I could never reach as far as you.

Your posts are usually pretty well thought out, but -- Angela or her brother???!!!

If LE (sheriff or whoever) investigated the trench, did they find anyone in it? Was it in a desolate area of the high plains desert? Did the alleged white-capped mystery man flee the scene or simply drive away? Did he threaten the hikers?

681 posted on 09/03/2002 9:00:01 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis
What did Javier Sickler drive?

Blue four door sedan I believe.

682 posted on 09/03/2002 9:00:28 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: Sherlock
Wonder what kind of vehicle this guy with this convoluted explanation covering for Ricci drives and what color and kind of hat he wears?

I don't know, but I'll bet one of the first things LE did was check out Ricci's time card where he worked. And I'll bet it checked out OK.

683 posted on 09/03/2002 9:01:49 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: Sherlock
That makes it unlikely Ricci was setting fence posts June 7 in Cheyenne, about 450 miles from Salt Lake City.

The Cheyenne story was an attempt by Ricci's allies to give an explanation for the mileage, mud, and post hole digger. When LE went to look at the supposed evidence they had none. It was BS by his friends trying to clear him.

684 posted on 09/03/2002 9:02:52 PM PDT by sandude
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To: sandude
FONT ALERT !!

666 posted on 9/3/02 10:41 PM Central by sandude

Sorry dude..you are "it" for the week. lol!!!

685 posted on 09/03/2002 9:02:53 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Sherlock
Blue four door sedan I believe.

For real?!!!!

686 posted on 09/03/2002 9:03:16 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis
Did the alleged white-capped mystery man flee the scene or simply drive away?

THE MAN TOLD THE HIKERS IT WAS TO ROAST A PIG, BUT THEN APPARENTLY LEFT IN A BLUE SUV!!!!

687 posted on 09/03/2002 9:03:52 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: varina davis
If LE (sheriff or whoever) investigated the trench, did they find anyone in it? Was it in a desolate area of the high plains desert? Did the alleged white-capped mystery man flee the scene or simply drive away? Did he threaten the hikers?

Do you think it's possible that Elizabeth’s body was in the back of the SUV and when the hikers came onto the scene our friend had to abandon his "pig roasting pit" and go find another place for his "cookout"?

688 posted on 09/03/2002 9:05:55 PM PDT by sandude
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To: Neenah
Hey, I'm groovin on it. No problemo.
689 posted on 09/03/2002 9:06:45 PM PDT by sandude
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To: sandude
None of the above is even worth debating, especially the "same facial features" -- LOL
690 posted on 09/03/2002 9:07:12 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: sandude
Do you think it's possible that Elizabeth’s body was in the back of the SUV and when the hikers came onto the scene our friend had to abandon his "pig roasting pit" and go find another place for his "cookout"?

No.

691 posted on 09/03/2002 9:08:47 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: Sherlock
The volunteers who found the suspicious man in Emigration Canyon said he was wearing light-colored pants, a T-shirt and a white cap, clothes that matched the description of the suspect. The volunteers said the man was acting as though he did not want to be seen, avoiding hiking trails and wandering into deep brush. The searchers also reported hearing several gunshots.
692 posted on 09/03/2002 9:11:39 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: varina davis
especially the "same facial features"

Brigette noticed it and posted the sketch and Angela's photo together. Others have also seen the resemblance. I bet if I told you it looked like a member of the Smart family you'd want to debate it.

693 posted on 09/03/2002 9:12:10 PM PDT by sandude
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A volunteer searcher named Chad, who asked that his last name not be used, told authorities he saw the suspicious man about 6 p.m. and watched him for about 30 minutes. The closest he came to the man was about 150 to 200 feet.

"I saw his tattoo on his right shoulder. It was red, green and blue," Chad said.

The man was walking by himself but vanished when someone, possibly another searcher, yelled, "Hey, hey, hey," Chad said. Minutes later, Chad heard two gunshots and then footsteps about 10 feet above where he was standing.

"I was so scared. I told my brother not to radio me," Chad said.

His brother on Pinecrest Road had told others in the search party about the sighting, and they called authorities.

Matt Duven, 19, was with two friends in another area above Pinecrest. They heard about the sighting over the radio and tried to intercept the man.

"We thought we heard branches break. That's when we saw him coming over the ridge," Duven said.

His two friends decided to instead descend to the road and fetch sheriff's officers. Duven stayed by himself to keep an eye on the man, who apparently had stopped walking.

"He kept walking back and forth in a 25-foot area. Then he would sit down," Duven said. "I assume he was waiting for night to run away."

Duven also said he heard about nine gunshots. "It was two here, one there," he said.

About 25 minutes later it was dark, and Duven said he couldn't see the man.

"If this is the suspect, we know he is armed, so they were very smart not to go in there and follow him," said Salt Lake County sheriff's deputy Peggy Faulkner.

694 posted on 09/03/2002 9:17:32 PM PDT by Sherlock
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To: sandude
I bet if I told you it looked like a member of the Smart family you'd want to debate it.

It looks nothing like Angela Ricci or any of the Smart family.

695 posted on 09/03/2002 9:18:51 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: varina davis
It looks nothing like Angela Ricci

Others might disagree. At least when I mentioned the Smarts it got you to go take a look.

696 posted on 09/03/2002 9:20:16 PM PDT by sandude
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To: Sherlock
"I saw his tattoo on his right shoulder. It was red, green and blue," Chad said.

If they were able to see that much, they should have been able to see a lot more, one would think.

697 posted on 09/03/2002 9:21:42 PM PDT by varina davis
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To: Sherlock
Unfortunately Chad and his cohort turned out to not be credible witnesses. Their story fell apart upon examination, and the two were wearing false police ID badges.
698 posted on 09/03/2002 9:22:30 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Sherlock
A volunteer searcher named Chad

I thought this guy had been dismissed as a crackpot. Several hundred man hours were spent chasing the dead end lead. That's my memory anyway.

699 posted on 09/03/2002 9:22:45 PM PDT by sandude
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Searchers say the suspicious man was wearing a white baseball hat, tan denim jackets and white pants — clothing Smart's 9-year-old sister, who was in the room when she was taken, said the kidnapper was wearing.

"They are currently still in the canyon looking for that person," Atkinson said. "At this point they've been unable to locate that person."

700 posted on 09/03/2002 9:23:01 PM PDT by Sherlock
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