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Elizabeth Smart thread, August 31-September 7, 2002

Posted on 08/31/2002 10:26:34 AM PDT by IamHD

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To: Bella
Sure did!
21 posted on 08/31/2002 12:55:33 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: spore-gasm
"From what we have read, Ricci was last at the home in October of '01 (unless, of course, he had been invited back by the family). We're talking eight months from the last time he was there until the time Liz disappeared."

I hear ya! By the way, I am looking at the floorplan of the Smart home (from the Newsweek mag.) and it appears that the kitchen is elevated...the main floor, but still elevated. Now it comes out that a chair was in front of the kitchen window??

This case puts the Ramsey case to shame.

22 posted on 08/31/2002 1:03:31 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: FR_addict
Haha..we're all on the same wavelength. :) I just posted the something very similar.

(It's nice and peaceful here.)

23 posted on 08/31/2002 1:07:37 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: IamHD
the :)
24 posted on 08/31/2002 1:10:33 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: IamHD
These people still maintain Ricci (Cynthia)!..they ought to look at their own family...Wright family, another thing...I read on other boards that the LE think it was kids..now the family thinks it's related...BS! Lots in the family..
25 posted on 08/31/2002 1:18:18 PM PDT by Bella
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To: Bella
Did Ed's sister just say that RR had been bragging to friends about wanting to burglarize the Smart's home?

A plane was flying over and I didn't hear the whole spiel.

26 posted on 08/31/2002 1:21:04 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: Bella
That's what I was wondering about. The police said it was kids, yet it was the same MO as what happened at the Smart home as we are just now finding out. I thought it was kids too when I heard about the chair, now the Smart kidnapping looks even more suspicious.

I thought the press conference was going to be the police, not the Smarts saying the same thing over again. I think $3,000 is chicken feed with Ed's money. I know I could raise more than $3,000 if I thought Ricci had someting to do with it and I'm sure Ed has more money than me.
27 posted on 08/31/2002 1:24:39 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: IamHD
I think so, but was doing other things too.
They sure come up with a lot of tidbits. I think some of these tidbits are from people trying to cash in on the reward and will make up a little lie to get a piece of the action.

I don't think the disappearing email was real, nor the woman whose story was so bad that the police even discounted it. She had a tape and pictures of Ricci that conveniently diisappeared when the FBI showed up to get them.
28 posted on 08/31/2002 1:27:38 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Bella
I wonder if it would be at all helpful if an artist touched up a pic of ES to show her with short hair, dark hair, etc. Just on the off-chance that she has either disguised herself or someone else wants her appearance changed.
30 posted on 08/31/2002 1:52:59 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: Bella
Your 'opinion' says more about you than it does about the Smarts. LOW LOW LOW
33 posted on 08/31/2002 2:03:54 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: spore-gasm
3. Now they are saying that they are confident others will come forward now that Ricci is dead because they will no longer be afraid.

Comment: This is this most ABSURD statement yet. What was Ricci going to do to anyone from maximum security in prison? They weren't even letting the poor b'tard shower every day.

Was thinking the same thing.

Also a $3,000 reward is paltry in such a large extended family. Almost like they don't really believe that Ricci did it.

35 posted on 08/31/2002 2:10:36 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: IamHD
I wondered about the $3500 on the stolen items, seashells, perfume, and jewelry. The seashells and perfume can be discounted as far as price, so that leaves jewelry. Now, I know I don't have the money the Smart's have but I thought $3,500 in jewelry was high, assuming that Lois was wearing her wedding and engagement rings. With 6 kids that seems rather frivolous to me to have that much expensive jewelry, but I guess I'm just not into jewelry.

What do you think?
37 posted on 08/31/2002 2:17:55 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
I don't think it's unusual. Lois and other family members would have had pieces of jewelry given to them for birthdays, holidays, etc. and probably also owned items passed down to them from grandparents. I'm amazed, though, that Ricci would keep these around his house rather than sell or pawn them. Maybe that might indicate a preoccupation, maybe even an obsession, with the Smart family -- perhaps Elizabeth in particular? If there was no one else involved with the kidnapping, perhaps this is what motivated Ricci.
38 posted on 08/31/2002 2:24:28 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: FR_addict
I, too, wondered about the jewelry. Apparently this jewelry was taken after Richard and Angela married. Why hold onto it? Angela most certainly would have known that he couldn't possibly afford $3500- worth of jewelry. And, if true, why wouldn't they have arrested Angela for accepting something stolen?

When I first heard of the perfume, they said that it was an empty perfume bottle. How can one prove that a perfume bottle belonged to one specific person?

I have jewelry, too, but never where it. As you, I'm not into wearing jewelry...can think of better things to do with my money. :)

39 posted on 08/31/2002 2:32:46 PM PDT by IamHD
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Ricci Dies in Coma
Saturday, August 31, 2002

BY ASHLEY BROUGHTON and KEVIN CANTERA
THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE

Richard Albert Ricci died Friday evening at University Hospital after family members made the decision to remove him from life support, hospital officials said.

Ricci, who had been in a deep coma since suffering a brain hemorrhage Tuesday night in his cell at the Utah State Prison, was taken off life support at 7:16 p.m. and died at 7:28. His wife, Angela, was by his side, as were Ricci's mother, brother and sister.

Ricci, 48, who police had at the top of the list of possible suspects in the June 5 disappearance of 14-year-old Elizabeth Smart, had shown no brain activity Friday except initiating breathing on his own, hospital officials said.

A brain scan performed Thursday night showed Ricci's brain stem, including the area responsible for consciousness, was severely damaged from the brain hemorrhage, said neurologist Elaine Skalabrin.

Members of the Smart family, meanwhile, hope that information Ricci may have had regarding Elizabeth's whereabouts did not die with him.

"The family wants to express their condolences to Angela, she has been through so much," said Chris Thomas, Smart family spokesman. "As far as the investigation, [Ricci's death] might help. People who may have been involved can now step forward and tell all. There are still so many questions."

The family on Friday announced additional rewards for information in the case, including the identity of a person seen with Ricci three days after the abduction.

Although police had said Ricci never fully answered their questions, Ricci was never charged in connection with the kidnapping and he maintained his innocence. He had been in prison since June for alleged parole violations.

After Ricci was hospitalized in critical condition, Salt Lake City Police Chief Rick Dinse said that, if Ricci died, "that would be a big impact on the [Smart] case." He added, "There are questions about things that [Ricci] did . . . [his death] will have an impact on if we can ever clear him."

Angela Ricci released a statement shortly after her husband died. In it she said, "Although I know that Richard would not have wanted to be kept alive by artificial means, six months ago when we married, saying good-bye was unthinkable. Like other new brides I had planned a life with the man I loved. . . . I know that the world will never know the Richard that his family and I knew, but I will always remember him as a kind and gentle man who was a loving husband to me and a caring father to my son."

Ricci received an LDS blessing Friday evening before life support was removed, said spokeswoman Nancy Pomeroy. The blessing asked that "the will of the Lord be done." Angela Ricci is Mormon; her husband was raised in the Roman Catholic Church.

Doctors do not know what caused Ricci's hemorrhage, Skalabrin said, but it was not an aneurysm. Common causes include a small malformation in blood vessels or a weakening of blood vessels stemming from long-term high blood pressure.

No malformation was found in Ricci's case, Skalabrin said. While Ricci previously took blood-pressure medication, his blood pressure was normal when he received a physical exam upon entering the prison in June. Although staffers continued to monitor it, he was judged not to need medication, Ford said.

In addition, there would probably have been physical signs that Ricci's body was affected by years of high blood pressure, Skalabrin said, and he reported no such symptoms. An autopsy is planned.

The autopsy needs to be done somewhere else, outside of Utah.

40 posted on 08/31/2002 3:19:55 PM PDT by IamHD
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