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Mornin', all. I must say, yesterday's thread contained one "eureka!" after another. (I gasped so much I woke up with a sore throat today!) The dry-cleaners receipt, the left-foot connections, Ott and Keyser's mysterious goings-on, the pre-search-warrant searches, Youngflesh's coincidental contributions...it's almost overwhelming!

An excellent collection of brains on this board. I'm so impressed with you all. Thanks for sharing all the fascinating info, revelations, discoveries, and ideas. May I bask in your brilliance?

BTW, speaking of Youngflesh and the porn disks, several things have been bothering me for a very long time: first of all, Watkins's testimony indicates he never saw the disks in question until Youngflesh waved around an envelope and said, "Aha! Look what I found!"

Watkins never saw any envelopes on the office bookshelves, and he didn't see Youngflesh pull any envelope off the bookshelf. The first time he saw those disks and that envelope was when Youngflesh presented it to him. When asked where the envelope was found, he recounted what Youngflesh had told him, not what he saw ('cause he didn't find it or see Youngflesh find it).

Also, they said it was typical for porn collectors to keep disks in a long white envelope sticking up on the bookshelf, along with a list of passwords and web addresses. What kind of moron keeps secret stuff "hidden" in that sort of highly visible manner...or writes down all his passwords and stores them in a highly visible white envelope sticking up on the shelf? None of that makes any sense to me. (All the silliness and inconsistencies make it look more apparent that LE DID plant some of the porn while DAW was away and before the search warrant came in...just like Ott could have planted evidence at Twin Peaks before the other LEOs came in to pick up the goods.)

Shezza, a summary of the findings might help some who didn't catch the whole thread yesterday, if you or someone wouldn't mind typing up a bit of it. Some of them were, indeed, stunning.

Do we know if Youngflesh has been in any "shady" deals?

Good pionts, Shezza. I've wondered some of that stuff myself.

Do you have any ideas about why?

Why such an all-out effort to go after Westerfield?
Why such clumsy efforts to perhaps 'plant' porn, fibers, blood, unconstitutional interviews, etc.
Why would any of theses cops, prosecutors or techs put their jobs on the line in this case?
Why would they cover for such lowlifes as the VanDams?

How did they manage to get so lucky in that Westerfield never did invite anyone into his motorhome over that particular weekend?
That he didn't happen to make a phone call or be seen by a neighbor when he got home from Dad's?
That no one in the neighborhood ever saw Danielle go into the motorhome?

I don't have answers, I don't think Westerfield had anything to do with her death, but I don't understand how the VanDams got so lucky in a circumstantial case that protects them from prosecution in their daughter's death.

I think Damon did it. I could be convinced that he's involved in the other abductions and deaths. But how is he protecting himself? He could be linked to Adam and Laura's deaths, yet their parents helped him when HIS daughter went missing.

Not just Shezza, though, does anyone have ideas about these questions?

Shezza, I had completely forgotten about the "plainly marked, highly visible, secret porn stash."

Very good catch. You have an excellent brain your own self!

Yesterday's thread

... Watkins's testimony indicates he never saw the disks in question until Youngflesh waved around an envelope and said, "Aha! Look what I found!" ...
What kind of moron keeps secret stuff "hidden" in that sort of highly visible manner...or writes down all his passwords and stores them in a highly visible white envelope sticking up on the shelf? ...

Yep. the Youngflesh "evidence" smells like yesterdays fish.

But the password thing is normal. I've seen clients who'll put their password on a post-it note on their monitor, or pencil it on the keyboard.
Stealth Ninja Dave is slipping.