[CAPPSMADNESS]

"Porn isn't the issue.. kiddie porn is"

And hence why I asked my ORIGINAL QUESTION..... Has the porn actually been PROVEN to be KIDDIE PORN?

Some say yes, and some say no. And since NO ONE on this forum has seen the videos in question, then are we all just speculating? or is there proof somewhere hidden in the transcripts?

[Freedom2specul8]

Yep, it's speculation..but some of us, are considering the eyewitness accounts..are they truth, factual or over-active imaginations..

[Jaded]

Since some people seem unconcerned with the actual testimony, I thought I'd direct this to someone who is interested in the testimony. This is from Marcus Lawson....

Q DO THESE IMAGES INCLUDE IMAGES BEYOND OR IN
ADDITION TO THOSE THAT WERE SHOWN TO THE JURY
YESTERDAY?

A YES, SIR, THEY DO.

Q I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU, IF I COULD, ANOTHER
EXHIBIT THAT'S BEEN PREVIOUSLY MARKED, WHAT HAS
BEEN DESCRIBED AS A SERIES OF PAGES MARKED EXHIBIT 147.

A YES, SIR.

Q DO YOU SEE THAT?

A YES, I DO.

Q DO YOU RECOGNIZE IT?

A YES, I DO.

Q WHAT IS IT?

A THESE ARE A SET OF ANIMATED OR, I'M SORRY, GRAPHIC
IMAGE FILES OR ANIME' AS THEY ARE CALLED THAT WERE
RETRIEVED, I RECOVERED FROM ONE OF THE ZIP DISKS.

Q IN ITEM NUMBER 12?

A YES, SIR.

Q WHAT DO THESE IMAGES DEPICT?

A THEY ARE A SERIES OF OR TWO SERIES, EACH SERIES
APPEARS TO BE -- DEPICT WHAT APPEARS TO BE A YOUNG
GIRL WHO IS ASSAULTED, BOUND, AND THEN ULTIMATELY
RAPED.

Q THE IMAGES APPEAR TO BE OF A CHILD.

MR. FELDMAN: YOUR HONOR, CAN YOU NOTE A CONTINUING
OBJECTION.

THE COURT: I WILL NOTE THAT FOR THE RECORD.

BY MR. CLARKE:

Q PERHAPS YOU CAN KEEP THEM FLAT, MR. WATKINS.

A SORRY.

Q DO THEY DEPICT THE TYING AND BINDING OF A CHILD?

A YES.

Q AND THE SEXUAL ASSAULT OF THAT CHILD?

A YES, SIR.

Q DO THEY ALSO INCLUDE TEXT?

A YES, THEY DO.

Q WHAT IS TEXT?

A TEXT IS JUST WORDS THAT ARE SUPERIMPOSED ON TOP OF
THE -- OF EACH FRAME OR EACH GRAPHIC IMAGE.

Q DOES THERE APPEAR TO BE TEXT WITH REGARD TO WHAT,
ALL OF THE IMAGES IN THAT PARTICULAR EXHIBIT, SOME OF
THEM, WHAT?

A EACH IMAGE HAS SOME TEXT ON IT.

Q OKAY.

JUST GENERALLY WHAT IS THE TYPE OF TEXT THAT'S
CONTAINED ON THEM?

A GENERALLY SPEAKING IT -- THE -- IT DEPICTS A GIRL BEING
SURPRISED BY SOMEBODY BEHIND THEM. ANOTHER ONE
DEPICTS SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT A GIRL WHO -- THAT HAD
A BUMP ON THEIR HEAD AND HOW THEY WANTED TO DO
SEXUAL ACTS ON THEM. SOME OF THE WORDS WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT WHAT ARE YOU DOING, WHAT ARE YOU
GOING TO DO.

Q OKAY.

DO THEY GENERALLY DEPICT WHAT ONE PERSON IS SAYING
IN THE ANIME' AND THEN WHAT THE OTHER PERSON IS
SAYING AS WELL?

A YES, SIR.

Q INCLUDING WORDS OF THE CHILD?

A YES.

Q DOES THAT EXHIBIT CONSIST OF JUST ONE SERIES OR MORE
THAN ONE SERIES?

A IT CONSISTS OF TWO SERIES.

Q IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO SERIES?

A THEY ARE DIFFERENT, BUT THEY ARE -- THEY ARE
DIFFERENT SERIES, BUT THEY ARE SIMILAR IN THEME.

MR. CLARKE: YOUR HONOR, I'VE ALSO PREVIOUSLY MARKED
AND DESCRIBED FOR THE RECORD A SERIES OF ADDITIONAL
PAGES MARKED EXHIBIT 148.



What live action is going to have written dialogue in it?

I have looked other than the words child or children there is not an instance where they specified that they were pre-pubescent IE:true Kiddie Porn. The ages of the girls, where they are actually people and not anime, is questionable.