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Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)
Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

Posted on 08/16/2002 6:39:20 AM PDT by FresnoDA

Judge denies defense motion to sequester jury

By Jeff Dillon and Steve Perez
SIGNONSANDIEGO

August 15, 2002

Judge William D. Mudd addressed counsel on a motion by defense attorney Steven Feldman regarding media access to jurors in the trial of defendant David Westerfield at San Diego courthouse, August 15, 2002. Westerfield is accused of the kidnapping and murder of seven-year old Danielle van Dam from her Sabre Springs home, last February.  REUTERS/POOL/Dan TrevanArguing that media coverage was creating a "lynch mob mentality" that could pressure jurors to return a guilty verdict, the defense attorney for David Westerfield today asked the judge yet again to sequester the jury.

While the jury completed its first week of deliberations without a verdict, Superior Court Judge William Mudd denied the request and a related motion to "pull the plug" on television and radio coverage of the courtroom proceedings, but agreed to set aside a private room for jurors to take breaks. Defense attorney Steven Feldman had argued that reports suggested jurors felt like they were under siege, unable to leave their deliberating room, go to lunch or walk home without being watched or followed.

"We have no assurance that they are not be intimidated ... by the presence of the media," Feldman told Mudd during a morning hearing. "We can think of only one fair resolution to that: Get the jury out of harm's way."

 

'Broccoli heads'

He cited an incident earlier in the week in which radio talk show hosts from KFI-AM 640 in Los Angeles broadcast from outside the courthouse, waving stalks of broccoli around and reportedly calling jurors "broccoli heads" for being unable to return a quick guilty verdict.

Westerfield, 50, could face the death penalty if convicted of kidnapping 7-year-old Danielle van Dam from her family's Sabre Springs home on Feb. 2 and killing her. Jurors are in their sixth day of deliberations.

Lead prosecutor Jeff Dusek disagreed with Feldman's interpretations of the jury's complaints.

"Whether or not any guilty verdict in this case would be based on a siege mentality or the meida I think is pure speculation and utterly false in this case," Dusek said.

What the jurors had complained about was being watched all the time, he said.

"That hardly equates to being under siege," he said.

 

Trust in the jury

Mudd dismissed most of Feldman's concerns, saying that the jurors had only asked a bailiff to keep reporters a little bit farther away, though an alternate juror reported that he or she had been followed to his car.

Media coverage has diminished since the jurors began deliberating, the judge said.

"The synopsis programs on the two local TV networks are not in place," he said. "The talking heads are doing nothing but speculating about what the jury may or may not be thinking."

Mudd said there were no signs that jurors were being harassed by the public, especially since their names and faces haven't been publicized.

"We've all sat here and picked this jury, know their makeup and know their dedication to this cause," Mudd said. "I would prefer to think that any verdict they make in this case would be based upon the evidence."

Sequestering the jury also wouldn't protect them from any public reaction to the verdict, Mudd said.

 

'The activities of a few'

"The tragedy is, the majority of the people in this courtroom are abiding by the court's orders and working very hard to insure they, meaning the media, do not cause something to occur that is going to cause a mistrial," Mudd said. "Not all of them feel that way as is very apparent with the activities of a few."

Mudd took aim at two radio program hosts from Los Angeles who he previously described as "idiots."

"I suppose it's entertainment out of LA. I hope it stays in LA," he said. "The shows those two gentlemen put on made the court incredulous as to what they were attempting to do."

Mudd also announced:

 



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To: JudyB1938
Try this one. It's free and there's a lot to choose from
for Randolph County research. Census records, marriages,
cemeteries (heaps of those.) Never pay for genealogy research. "Keep genealogy free."

http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/MO/Randolph/

1,181 posted on 08/17/2002 2:56:39 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: the Deejay
Thanks. I've searched that site out a couple of times. But thanks for reminding me, since new stuff does get added. I'll go do it again.

I bought a disc for marriages during the time my g-grandparents would have gotten married. Nothing there either. I was so disappointed, because I just knew for sure I'd finally found a source.

Gee, I hope nobody minds this personal off topic conversation - but things are kinda slow right now, being as it's the weekend. At least it keeps the thread bumped. :0)
1,182 posted on 08/17/2002 3:05:37 PM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: All
I'm linking this thread to the prayer thread for Jennifer Short:

Prayer Thread for Jennifer Short
1,183 posted on 08/17/2002 3:10:26 PM PDT by NatureGirl
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To: JudyB1938
The eldest of the two thinks that there isn't enough evidence and the younger believes he is guilty because he believes that DNA is the end-all-be-all and is always 110% accurate (it isn't and it can be skewed as easily as any other type of evidence). I tend to agree that DW is innocent or at the very least, involved somehow and possibly protecting another. My cousin thinks that we are all playing "doubting Thomas" and he swears that DW is innocent and if Dusek would not have relied on such extreme theatrics during closing, the jury would be back already with not guilty verdict. Go figure!
1,184 posted on 08/17/2002 3:11:18 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: JudyB1938
"I still wish somebody could find out if the Demon ties into that porn ring. It could explain a lot of things and probably exonerate Westerfield. "

If he is, along with some SD bigshots, you may hold the key to why he was dismissed as a suspect so quickly, and why DW is facing the death penalty with such flimsy evidence.
1,185 posted on 08/17/2002 3:37:33 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Rheo
From the unsealed affidavit, we learn that the detective already knew the black clothes were there before he arrived with the search warrant in hand. Wonder how many times le were at that dry cleaners before they tood away any 'evidence.'
1,186 posted on 08/17/2002 3:39:24 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: JudyB1938
"Although expert opinion from you and your cousin is worth a million"

Let me state for the record that I AM NOT AN EXPERT - having experience is one thing, but knowing EVERYTHING is another matter - I am short about 6 years of schooling and at least 2 certifications before I can even come close! I have seen and assisted in much, I may be knowledgeable, but I do not have NEAR enough letters behind my moniker to claim expertise!

1,187 posted on 08/17/2002 3:42:18 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: dread78645
So you would say that it would be normal for some markers to not match after less than a week?

(And thank you so much for your explanation!)
1,188 posted on 08/17/2002 3:42:45 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: ican'tbelieveit; dread78645; John Jamieson
""presumptive presence of blood." PRESUMED to be blood. Not proven to be blood, PRESUMED.---- ican'tbelieveit"

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This entire article is interesting....
http://www.crimelibrary.com/forensics/serology/3.htm
According to Henry C. Lee, a forensics expert who has assisted law enforcement in over 6,000 major criminal investigations—including that of O. J. Simpson---blood evidence is found most often in "crimes of violence such as homicide, assault, and sexual assault." It may be in the form of fresh liquid, coagulated, dried, or as a small drop or stain, and each form involves a different method of preservation and collection.
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There are several tests—presumptive tests used strictly for screening---that will differentiate between blood and other substances, but if other chemicals are present at the scene to which the test chemicals are sensitive, the tests may be vulnerable to corruption. For that reason, these tests are done with great care. A positive result from any of them is an indication to go ahead and use other tests to confirm.
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The Kastle-Meyer Color Test uses a solution of phenolphthalein and hydrogen peroxide on a piece of filter paper, and when blood of any quantity is present, it turns pink. However, it also turns pink in the presence of potatoes or horseradish, so care must be taken at the scene.

http://www.thesandiegochannel.com/sand/news/stories/news-152281920020620-130651.html
Three stains tested positive for the presumptive presence of blood, the criminalist testified. They were on the front right middle, the front right shoulder and the neck portion of the jacket, he said.

http://www.cnn.com/US/9609/18/simpson.trial/
The judge ordered a special hearing to determine the admissibility of presumptive blood tests. Those tests indicated the presence of blood in the drains of Simpson's bathroom sink and shower, and on the air conditioner by the guest house at his estate. Simpson's lawyers counter that since no further testing was done to prove the stains were human blood, the jurors should not hear any of it. The presumptive test results were barred at the criminal trial.

presumptive presence of blood
http://www.crime-scene.com/ecpi/serology.shtml
Phenolphthalein is one of the most commonly used tools both in the field and laboratory to indicate the presence of blood.

:Blood Tests These presumptive blood tests are designed to be a simple one-shot test for the presence of blood.



http://www.dojes.com/enter.html?target=zsuzuBlood_Detection_zg_Enhancementzszpuzu.html
The phenolphthalein presumptive blood test is one of the most commonly used tests in the field and in the forensic laboratory to indicate the presence of blood. This kit is particularly useful in the field to determine if that reddish-brown stain is blood or not and whether it is evidence that needs to be collected or ignored.

JJ i pinged u cuz I thought you might still be interested in the blood test.

1,189 posted on 08/17/2002 3:59:36 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
returning.....
1,190 posted on 08/17/2002 4:03:06 PM PDT by domestice
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To: itsahoot; UCANSEE2
"There is a witness that swears he dropped 3 people off near the camp that night, but he has been totally ignored"

That entire story is terrible. I know there are cases like that out there..no doubt.

"The theory that he went into the tent and killed three girls and dragged them out into the woods all by himself just never washed with me nor the jury apparently

I'm pinging ucansee2 to help fill in the blanks if he can. We live in the same area..which is why I'm pinging him. There was a case in our metro area, which 6 teens (3 boys, 3 girls) were accosted by "2" males w/guns. the girls got "raped" and all but 1 girl were killed execution style...if I recall correctly. Anything can happen. :( Ucansee2, can you remember the details? It's been awhile....

1,191 posted on 08/17/2002 4:08:09 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: small_l_libertarian
So you would say that it would be normal for some markers to not match after less than a week?

Without knowing what was poured down the drain ...

Soap and hot water would degrade things after a while, again how much and for how long ?

Add in a sink clenser like "Comet" containing sodium hypoclorides, the DNA will degrade very fast, if not immediately.

Disclaimer: I'm not a micro-biology eggspurt, just a computer dude that knows some chemistry and keeps up with the related stuff.

1,192 posted on 08/17/2002 4:16:34 PM PDT by dread78645
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
""I work in the medical field and have worked in trauma centers, funeral homes and with the county ME back home. Two of my older brothers are LE (a captain and a detective) and my cousin is an attorney "...we have really racked up the phone bill dollars discussing this case! And there is no clear consensus between the 4 of us - except that all of the evidence and persons involved should have been investigated and NO ONE should have been cleared within 24 hours."

That would be SO AWESOME! Ya'll will have to figure out how to get the program on your puter so you can talk to each other free over the internet.

Were they actually cleared in the 1st 24 hrs? Isn't that impossible? What about the lie detector tests? When were they given?

( ..there is so much combined knowledge, experience, etc of FR..I love it)

1,193 posted on 08/17/2002 4:18:02 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: domestice
INCOMING!!!!!

LOL!
1,194 posted on 08/17/2002 4:18:04 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
"Ya'll will have to figure out how to get the program on your puter so you can talk to each other free over the internet. "

LOL! needless to say, my cousin and eldest brother, although highly intelligent - are technologically challenged! And since I don't have the patience to teach them what little knowledge I have over the phone - I just call them.

1,195 posted on 08/17/2002 4:21:29 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: Hildy
Aren't you the classy one? Gettin a little nervous about the jury are you? Worried that all the liberal, dope smoking, swinging media types haven't been able to convince the jury to convict? Is it causing sweat to drip off your mustache?
1,196 posted on 08/17/2002 4:27:07 PM PDT by Lauratealeaf
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To: cyncooper
At this moment, it is 107 in Vegas

A cool 106 here in the Coachell Valley

1,197 posted on 08/17/2002 4:35:05 PM PDT by itsahoot
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To: Lauratealeaf
"Aren't you the classy one? Gettin a little nervous about the jury are you? Worried that all the liberal, dope smoking, swinging media types haven't been able to convince the jury to convict? Is it causing sweat to drip off your mustache?

Tee hee hee. That's funny!

1,198 posted on 08/17/2002 4:35:09 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: itsahoot
But aren't the winters bewt? I just love 'em!!
(Snow is a four-letter word.) I say, "A 'no' to
snow.
1,199 posted on 08/17/2002 4:37:18 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
There are several tests—presumptive tests used strictly for screening---that will differentiate between blood and other substances, but if other chemicals are present at the scene to which the test chemicals are sensitive, the tests may be vulnerable to corruption. For that reason, these tests are done with great care. A positive result from any of them is an indication to go ahead and use other tests to confirm.

Yes Kim. JJ & I hashed this out many threads ago.

The motorhome carpet was tested with the phenolphthalein reagent test. The vD home and the green jacket got the Hemostix testing, IIRC. Hemostix has an even worse false positive rate than phenolphthalein, but LE uses them because the test is simple and cheap.

A conclusive test such as precipitin anti-body or a hemochromagen (Takayama test) was not done, or at least no testimony of it being done.

The DNA is there, no doubt in my mind.
What is questionable is: Is it blood or some other substance that contains DNA ?
Or if you consider the "salting" theory, Det Ott with knapkin and ketchup pack from MickyD's ?

1,200 posted on 08/17/2002 4:40:37 PM PDT by dread78645
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