Judge Mudd Refuses Sequester Plea: Westerfield Jury Verdict In Sep? (Aug. 16th Verdict Watch)

Union Trib ^ | August 15, 2002 | Jeff Dillion/Steve Perez

[John Jamieson]

Dave, I think you got it right.

[domestice]

one more time for the freepmail....I feel like I'm playin' tennis!! :-)

[domestice]

You crack me up! :)

[clearvision]

No I think one from 1/26 was there and the 2nd from 2/4 was there (in the SUV). The one(s) from the morning would have been in the MH and I'm not sure they found those.

[itsahoot]

No relation to Phil Rowland of the child porno ring I assume?

No just a retired school teacher land barron :)

[domestice]

Yes..tis could be the case. I guess it boils down to, if there is no hard evidence, physical, more than just one witness....what is a juror to do? They must acquit, or find not guilty...otherwise, anyone w/ a beef against someone could say anything & get 'em thrown in the slammer...

Since men aren't perfect, our justice system isn't, but I get some consolation that the perfect judge above, will right all of the wrongs that have come to pass, ....phew, what a day that will be!!!

[JudyB1938]

I work in the medical field and have worked in trauma centers, funeral homes and with the county ME back home. Two of my older brothers are LE (a captain and a detective) and my cousin is an attorney - we have really racked up the phone bill dollars discussing this case! And there is no clear consensus between the 4 of us - except that all of the evidence and persons involved should have been investigated and NO ONE should have been cleared within 24 hours.

Although expert opinion from you and your cousin is worth a million, it's your two LE brothers who really give me a chill. I don't think I have to expound on what I mean, either.

[demsux]

Rheo, Are you the one that posted that Barb Easton owns some property up at Big Bear? We know that Bill Libby has a cabin at Big Bear.

If true, that would be very revealing.

Maybe DVD didn't go to Big Bear on Friday, because he knew that Barb would not be up there.

[pinz-n-needlez]

Have we seen any sort of itemized list of what they examined from the mh, or does all of that stuff just fit in under the heading of a warrant for the mh and contents?

[dread78645]

I understand that DNA can degrade, and that could cause some "misses." (That info came from Holland - not my own understanding). How fast would that DNA from her hair degrade? If it takes more than just a few days, would that mean that the hair must be old? Am I missing something obvious that is going to make me go, "DUH!"?

It's not the age of the sample, it is exposure to various chemicals and radiation plus the length of time exposed.
Some pair sequences will degrade faster than others.

A (maybe) good analogy is a painting.
Some colors will fade quickly when exposed to sunlight. Other colors degrade due to air-pollution. At some point you'll have trouble discerning the blue from the green.

So the sample in the drain trap would have been exposed to soap, hot water, and any cleansers. It's reasonable that bits of markers aren't there --or so degraded that the test result is inconclusive.

[cyncooper]

DW concealed the first trip to the drycleaners from the police. The affidavit reveals that it was not until 2/6 that he finally told about taking in the bedding.

Under cross-exam by Boyce, Torgersen states that when shown the 2/4 receipt Mills brought out the black pants, t-shirt and sweater. This tells me that that receipt corresponds to trip #2. He got a search warrant after confirming that was the establishment he was looking for. He had information at this time that the bedding was there from DW's statement earlier that same day so was able in the affidavit to state he was looking for bedding. Upon returning 2/7 with warrant he picked up all items brought in on 2/4, which were the bedding and green jacket from trip #1 and the black clothing from trip #2.

The items brought in on 1/26 were no longer at the establishment. In fact, I am not aware the 1/26 visit was introduced into evidence at all. The only reference I've heard is in Feldman's close, so it is irrelevant, except that it was a clue leading the detectives to which drycleaners DW frequented.

[itsahoot]

What was he convicted of?

I really don't remember, but he had been in pretty serious trouble.

And do you know why he was acquitted?

The jury just didn't believe they made a case. Neither did I.

Is the inconclusive DNA testing the reason he was acquitted?

NO. DNA was not in vogue at the time tests were done 10 or 15
years later. My guess is if that he would have been released
today with that finding. There has been many books written
on this case lot of varied opinions.

There is a witness that swears he dropped 3 people off near the camp that night, but he has been totally ignored. People tried
to get a grand jury started, but they had lots of road blocks from
authorities.

As for Gene Hart, this viral young Indian that had evaded hundreds
of people searching the woods for him, conviently died of a
massive heart attack, while in prison.

The FBI, Special forces, OCB, Special dogs, helicopters with
super secret infrared detectors, and this clever Indain survived
in the woods living off the land. Or so the story went.

He himself said in the only interview with him after the trial
that he slept in a bed every night. This was a really big media
event, they had to have someone so.....

The theory that he went into the tent and killed three girls and dragged them out into the woods all by himself just never washed with me nor the jury apparently. Bur hey, they closed the case
and that is what it is all about, I guess.

[the Deejay]

This is all I could find on Easton, owing property in
San Bernadino County.

Name Type Title Recording Date Document Nbr
EASTON BARBARA A Grantor ASGT TR DD 06/15/2000 2000-0214157

[itsahoot]

Fifty years later, probably most know nothing about the Mayes family.

Sad but true, can't be cluttering up the minds of those young people
memorizing all those useless facts.

I was in Tulsa for the month of July, it got pretty hot there, of course
I do live in the desert here so I was used to it :)

[dread78645]

Carbon 69 dating

Swinging sex, child porn, and now perverted isotopes ?

Hmmmmm ...

[dread78645]

Didn't Dusek bring in a rope to show us how large that fiber was?

I thought he was trying to sneak in more fibre evidence.

[JudyB1938]

At this moment, it is 107 in Vegas.

[Jrabbit]

But it's a dry heat, right? People used to tease us with the "dry heat" thing when we lived in Boulder City and I'd mention how HOT it was! We are in Texas now. The humidity does make a big difference. I do miss Nevada.

[CAPPSMADNESS]

My turn at serve - right back at ya again!

[Rheo]

I found a Barbara Easton that owns 3.44 acres but it's not at Big Bear, it's in San Diego.