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AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 571) [Remember the Trade Center!!]
Various News Sources and FReepers | August 14, 2002 | All of Us

Posted on 08/14/2002 4:02:31 AM PDT by Chairman_December_19th_Society

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To: kayak
Thank you for the picture Kay. Payback certainly will be with interest for the ba$tard$ that attacked us, and those that support them.

/john

201 posted on 08/14/2002 9:31:14 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: JRandomFreeper
Thanks. :)
202 posted on 08/14/2002 9:35:52 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
As much as you guys have prayed for me and mine, I've always got time for prayers for you guys. ;>)

How are things going at work? Any better?

/john

203 posted on 08/14/2002 9:43:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: JRandomFreeper
No, work is same old, same old, 2nd verse, much much worse. We're on a project where two different engineering groups are working on the same piece of code. One group is in Provo, the other group is in India. Everyone owns the project and no one owns it. It is the most frustrating software project I have ever worked on. On the bright side, I entered 8 defects today, and had the pleasure of watching a developer's face blanch when he saw them... :)
204 posted on 08/14/2002 9:47:59 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
You're becoming quite sadistic, young lady! ..... LOL!
205 posted on 08/14/2002 9:50:31 PM PDT by kayak
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To: JRandomFreeper
I thought everyone would like that graphic, John, but that you would especially.

We really appreciate what you're doing and why you're doing it .... and in a way I envy you, too. You're getting the opportunity to really do something towards exacting justice on the evil ones. Most of us can only rant and rave about it.

206 posted on 08/14/2002 9:54:16 PM PDT by kayak
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To: Utah Girl; kayak
LOL! Mean! But that's how most testers wind up, from what I've seen.

I went down and got my uniform out of the dryer. All I have to do is spray it with heavy starch, wait 30-45 minutes, and start ironing. It's almost midnight, and I don't have to be ready for inspection until 9:00am. I should make it with plenty of time. Sleep? whazzat? LOL!

I won't be around tomorrow until after class. And I don't know when that will be. So, if anybody asks, I'm not going to be on the thread until probably after 6:00pm CST. I don't want people thinking I've gone AWOL from ATRW.

/john

207 posted on 08/14/2002 9:58:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: kayak
Yes, I am. :) It is quite the feeling of satisfaction to find so many defects. It is also called covering oneself (CYA) in advance, so that when I don't vote for the project to be ready to go, I have some ammunution to back up my statements. And they're "good" defects to boot.
208 posted on 08/14/2002 10:00:10 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
And they're "good" defects to boot.

"It's not a bug, it's a FEATURE!" Yeah, go tell marketing. LOL!

I don't envy you your job, but I appreciate your work and effort at a (generally) thankless job.

/john

209 posted on 08/14/2002 10:07:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: JRandomFreeper
I can do mean. :) Actually, I do try to work with the developers, I've found that I can offer them ideas they haven't thought about and vice versa. The relationship can work very well if both sides take each other strengths and work with them. I actually work with some good developers, the ones I'm talking about are new to the group, and haven't been amenable to listen to either developers or testers.

And the defects were good ones. I remember working with a tester when I first started the job, he would write up the oddest stuff. "Move the mouse really fast 29 times, and you get the blue screen of death." And he meaured pixels too. "That warning message box is two pixels down from the previous one." Don't get me started, I can go all night on this tangent...so I'll be quiet now.

210 posted on 08/14/2002 10:08:04 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: kayak
You're getting the opportunity to really do something towards exacting justice on the evil ones.

To draw a historical analogy from Kipling's poetry of the same place, many years earlier, think of my job as that of Gunga Din. Combat Services provides the same kind of thing. Water, food, laundry, shelter, gym, mortuary.... any service(not infrastructure) that is needed.

It's not the most glamourous job, but it's the one I could get.

I'm not the tip of the spear, but I get to polish the tip.

/john

211 posted on 08/14/2002 10:14:36 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: Utah Girl
Move the mouse really fast 29 times, and you get the blue screen of death.

I've known guys like that. Sometimes, they have a point, when dealing with stack-depth, or how the app reacts with the standard api's. But, mostly, they like to break things.

My reply to the really fast 29 times mouse thing? "Don't do that"

/john

212 posted on 08/14/2002 10:19:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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To: JRandomFreeper
What is that saying? ..... an army marches on its stomach. While the combat guys get most of the glory (because they're the most at-risk and do the "heroic" stuff), they couldn't do what they do without the support services.
213 posted on 08/14/2002 10:23:59 PM PDT by kayak
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To: lysander13135; jtill; kayak; illstillbe; Utah Girl; still lurking; JRandomFreeper
I'm about to post the linky/brekky, but first want to play a little catch up ...

lysie, jtill, kayak, illstillbe, still lurking, enjoyed your childhood reminiscences ... *sigh*, times have really changed.
:(

kayak, thanks for the awesome "United We Stand" graphic and great links you've been providing for us. ken's thread is so clever. I enjoyed your interesting tidbits about your acquaintanceship with the wife of the Marine One pilot. Any luck today scouting for an office?

UG, the Chavez baby is such a beautiful child. Thanks for that pic and touching excerpt. Praise God that she was returned to her family safe and sound. More thanks offered for the good news about baby Jacob, as well. I hope your employer is giving you at least some of the recognition and appreciation you deserve. You are really on the ball, girl.

My last night of dealing with Navy, and my last night of nights. Yea!!!!Yippee! Hi there, /john, it's so nice to see you tonight. I was wondering how you manage to stay up so late freeping after a demanding day and still be up bright and early the next morning for inspection, then saw your comment about sleep/WHAZZAT? LOL. I don't know how you do it. I'd like to echo kay's comments in #206 and add my thanks and appreciation to you, as well. I think it must be angel time:


214 posted on 08/14/2002 10:25:28 PM PDT by Lorena
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To: *ATRW

AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 570) [Remember the Trade Center!!]

Yesterday's Thread (8/13/02)

215 posted on 08/14/2002 10:27:12 PM PDT by Lorena
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To: OneidaM; kayak; illstillbe; lysander13135; jtill; kassie; Molly Pitcher; Bitwhacker; The Raven; ...

216 posted on 08/14/2002 10:30:04 PM PDT by Lorena
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To: All

217 posted on 08/14/2002 10:30:43 PM PDT by Lorena
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To: Lorena
We found something very interesting as a potential office. Hubby had already looked at it once but wanted me to go see it. We gave the rental agent a diagram of the changes we would need to the space (walls added, moved, etc.) and he's supposed to get back to us next week.

As it stands now, we're looking to move possibly the first of November.

Please remind me again of when you're going on vacation. Is it starting the 18th?

218 posted on 08/14/2002 10:31:03 PM PDT by kayak
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To: Lorena
Where do you find all this wonderful stuff you post? You must spend hours looking or are quite the search wizard.

(((((Lorena)))))

219 posted on 08/14/2002 10:33:11 PM PDT by kayak
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To: Lorena
I think it must be angel time:

It is. Send angels that can iron.

All I do is what I can. What any man that cares about freedom will do, if he is able. I am honored to be allowed to serve.

Speaking of service... Thank you for yours.

/john

220 posted on 08/14/2002 10:41:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper
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