No Decision From Westerfield Jury: Deliberations Continue Tuesday, August 13, 2002

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[small_l_libertarian]

Oddly enough, the defense doesn't seem the slightest bit worried about the "child porn." Feldman challenged the jury to look at all of it. Maybe it's not really child porn, huh?

[Freedom2specul8]

Spec, talk about stretching the truth. You know as well as I do, that I HAVE NEVER said swinging was ok nor have I written anything that is in defense of that lifestyle. How sick.

[Jaded]

You know, Kimmie, I really hate it when this happens... but...You need to look up the transcripts and jury instructions. Quit shrieking child porn. The rape clip was ANIME/HENTAI.

Recently I had the opportunity to participate in a mock jury for this case. We read the jury instructions. Very interesting.

On the porn charge originally it was majority guilty. Then we read the testimony of Lawson, Watkins and Neal. The key part of the law was knowingly possess. The experts stated that there was no pre-pubescent porn. So it was questionable if any of the girls were under age. Some of it was Neal's. The "rape video" was hentai, so it didn't matter. It was also recovered from a deleted file and on Neal's computer too. Also some of the pics the showed in court came from Neal's computer.

Kidnapping- There is NO proof he kidnapped her. Exculpatory evidence in the VD home. No dog hits on the Westerfield home, SUV or RV, 180 Frank aside.

Murder- Could not happen with out the kidnapping. Except if she was murdered inside her room. Then there are no special circumstances. Again, exculpatory evidence. The bug guys, no dog hits. There is too much reasonable doubt. Actually one of the participants was convinced from the beginning that David was guilty. Until that person listened to the testimony. However, there was one participant who was convinced of his guilt on an emotional level and would not be swayed by evidence and justified this position with statements that supported reasonable doubt. Hope the jury doesn't have to slog through that sort of thing.

It was an interesting experience. Glad I'm not on the actual jury.

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[John Jamieson]

This is a life and death struggle where if one side loses, they die, if the other side loses, they might have to find a new job. The rules should be and are totally loaded for the first side. They must prove that DW did it, and they haven't. People like NG are imbalancing the system.

Did you hear Judge Mudd's new opinion about TV and radio coverage? He said he's done a 180.

[Freedom2specul8]

Right..past tense. I never would have guessed that she was...How often to conservatives switch to being a liberal? Not often I'd say!

[the Deejay]

I tried that link and it said, "This page is no
longer available."

[lexington minuteman 1775]

Yeah, which is better than sheckles and drachmas!BWHAHAHAHA

[John Jamieson]

They didn't know that Damon was going to drop the body on his trip through Deseha on Feb 16th. Maybe even Feldman (and DW) couldn't believe it was the parents (or Brooke L Rowland, or a combination).

[spectre]

Oh Kim...you are pathetic. Of course you have never defended swinging..YOU JUST THINK THEY DIDN"T DO any of that stuff...rumors and innuendo, right, Kim? Want to take a trip down memory lane? I've got a ton of witnesses to bear me out.

You are the one who needs your head examined, not me or even the Van Dams. ME sick, Kim? Listen to yourself..

sw

[the Deejay]

Nancy wants to keep her job at Court TV & that's why
she's had a change in attitude, especially during
this trial.

If you've noticed, so has James Curtis. He's usually
been the conservative one as Lisa Bloom's sidekick.

[John Jamieson]

YES, she also said there are too many blacks on death row, we've got to even this up!

[Freedom2specul8]

You could be right. Doesn't it seem like they were a little desparate to insinuate that it was neals. Does that offer us a clue as to how worried they are about it? I didn't get the impression they were denying it, just downplaying it and trying to confuse the jury with computer talk. What the jury actually saw is what drived the issue...the defense can't argue through what they saw and felt, and through the jurors tears. I suppose if none of that had happened, the child porn wouldn't have been a factor..

[Mrs.Liberty]

Can anyone briefly encapsulate what Mudd said to little river today, or what the outcome was, and also remind me what was in Redden's testimony that the jury might find interesting?

thanks!

[John Jamieson]

Yeah......the SD jail!

[sawsalimb]

Were I to suddenly watch a broadcast of myself,and were I to suddenly realize that,"Waitaminnit-that moron on the TeeVee is ME!!!",then I too might have reason to change my opinions regarding televised coverage of certain events.

[KnutCase]

Small l.....I think Feldman emphasized that and challenged the jury to look close because police witness did not say it was child porn, only that it "bordrered on child porn". So if jury determines it's not child porn it may be a plus for DW... They had been told that looking at child porn leads to rape and murder of children. That's why he was yelling at them to take a close look at everything on the videos. I doubt they will.

[bvw]

ditto on date, two hours earlier.

[Freedom2specul8]

Well hey, rumors and innuendos were found to be true on both sides. From child porn to sex swaps with friends.