[mountaineer]

The ABA is a worthless organization. Back in my young lawyer days I was talking to a prominent local attorney, who at the time also was the Democrat lieutenant governor of the state, and he told me not to waste my time or money belonging to the ABA, so it's not just conservatives who hold that opinion.

[lodwick]

Yep. ANY organization that stays around long enough - no matter how good and laudable the original purpose - gets corrupted by their own power.

Governments, churches, advocacy groups - I cannot, with the exception of most scouting operations and the Salvation Army, think of any powerful group that it's not about the power. (And the cash of course.)

[lodwick]

The snappy response: would any other than a worthless organization have the PIAPS as a guest or a member?