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To: Rheo
As best I can gather, Criminalist Karen Lealcala lifted the 2 prints from the cabinet on 2/8/02. She had also been in the MH on 2/6.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/transcripts/20020312-9999-morningprelim.html

According to Lealcala Ott & keyser had been in the MH.(PrelimH)
What piece(s) of evidence did they give Criminalist Lealcala??

17 BY MR. FELDMAN:

18 Q DID YOU RECEIVE ANY PIECES OF EVIDENCE FROM

19 INSIDE THE MOTORHOME FROM DETECTIVES OTT OR KEYSER?

20 THE COURT: OVERRULED.

21 THE WITNESS: YES.

22 BY MR. FELDMAN:

23 Q AND DID EITHER -- WERE DETECTIVES OTT OR

24 KEYSER INSIDE THE MOTORHOME BEFORE YOU WERE ACTUALLY

25 INSIDE THE MOTORHOME, IF YOU KNOW?

26 MR. CLARKE: SAME OBJECTION.

27 THE COURT: OVERRULED.

28 THE WITNESS: I DON'T THINK THEY WERE IN THERE
Page 344

1 BEFORE I WAS.

2 BY MR. FELDMAN:

3 Q ARE YOU GUESSING?

4 A I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WERE OR NOT.

5 Q OKAY.

6 THE COURT: COUNSEL, I LET YOU GO A LITTLE BIT.

7 SHE TESTIFIED ABOUT THE FINGERPRINTS, SHE TESTIFIED

8 ABOUT THE ITEMS RETRIEVED FROM THE CLEANERS. THAT'S

9 ALL SHE TESTIFIED TO. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO

10 KEEP IT.

11 MR. FELDMAN: YES, YOUR HONOR.


She also received the jacket that came from the cleaners from Det. Torgeson. She was trained in crime scene photography (35mm). No mention made of any pictures taken until jacket was turned over to Asst. Criminalist Soriano who took only Polaroids on one of the most important pieces of evidence. Soriano claims he was only trained in taking Polaroids, specialty was biological evidence, but did take other courses and had degree IIRC.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/transcripts/20020312-9999-afternoonprelim.html

(my note, Sorian stressed his training more at PH than at trial, later promoted to Criminalist)

Carpet stain was also not photographed,prior to testing, was it photographed afterwards? Which would show blood spatter? Testimony 6/20 of Annette Peer. DNA for comparison was taken from Danielle's rib after recovery of body.

CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. FELDMAN:

Q GOOD AFTERNOON, MA'AM.

A GOOD AFTERNOON.

Q CAN YOU TELL ME SPECIFICALLY DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BLOODSTAIN WHICH I BELIEVE IS 84 IN THE MOTOR HOME, DID YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF THAT?

A WELL, I ATTEMPTED TO TAKE A PICTURE OF IT WHEN I BROUGHT THE SAMPLE INTO THE LABORATORY.

Q BEFORE YOU TOOK IT INTO THE LABORATORY IN ITS ORIGINAL CONDITION AS YOU ORIGINALLY IDENTIFIED, DID YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF IT?

A I DID NOT TAKE A PHOTO, NO.

Q DO YOU HAVE A PRECISE DESCRIPTION OF THE SIZE OF THAT STAIN?

A NO. I HAVE AN APPROXIMATE DESCRIPTION.

Q I'M SORRY. WHEN YOU SAY APPROXIMATE, WHAT YOU -- WHY IS IT APPROXIMATE AND NOT. . .

A THE REASON WHY IT'S AN APPROXIMATE IS WHEN THE STAIN WAS OBSERVED BY MYSELF AND CRIMINALIST TANYA DULANEY, WE NOTED THAT A STAIN WAS PRESENT. I NOTED THE APPROXIMATE SIZE AND THE APPROXIMATE COLOR. AND THEN I CHEMICALLY TESTED IT. DURING THE COURSE OF IT BEING CHEMICALLY TESTED, THE FIBERS OF THE CARPET WERE SOMEWHAT DISTURBED, SO AN EXACT MEASUREMENT COULD NOT BE TAKEN OF IT AFTER I HAD CHEMICALLY TESTED IT.

Q SO BEFORE THE CHEMICAL TEST WAS DONE, THERE WAS NO EFFORT MADE TO PHOTOGRAPH IT WITH A, FOR INSTANCE, A MILLIMETER RULER OR AN INCH RULER?

A NO, THERE WAS NOT.

Q SO YOU CAN'T TELL US THE PRECISE SIZE OF THE STAIN. WHAT'S YOUR ESTIMATE?

A MY ESTIMATE IS APPROXIMATELY ONE-QUARTER-INCH IN DIAMETER.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/transcripts/020624_pm1.



565 posted on 08/12/2002 7:08:22 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone
Great compilation rolling_stone!

why in the world could they have not taken pics before destroying the stains??

I still want to know when Ott was in the dry cleaners...was it when DW's stuff was in another person's name?

570 posted on 08/12/2002 7:14:27 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: rolling_stone
Soriano claims he was only trained in taking Polaroids, specialty was biological evidence, but did take other courses and had degree IIRC.

Now I find this rather interesting. About 15 years ago I bought a 35mm SLR camera. I taught myself how to take acceptable photos using the instruction manual and about 3 rolls of film. If such a one as I can figure out the vagaries of a macro lens on a camera,and the mysteries of film speeds(hint: when in doubt,take an couple of extra pics with the camera at different film speed settings),surely someone with training in investigative techniques can do the same.

590 posted on 08/12/2002 7:33:50 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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