Van Dam Jury Update, Monday August 12th: Westerfield's Fate Lies In Mudd Instructions?

Court TV ^ | August 12, 2002 | Court TV

[FresnoDA]

Jury's time Jurors will resume deliberations Monday in the capital case of David Westerfield, who is accused of killing 7-year-old Danielle van Dam

DAY TWO: FRIDAY, AUG. 9, 2002
12 noon ET	Jury enters jury room.
2:30 p.m. ET	Jury goes home for the weekend.

DAY ONE: THURSDAY, AUG. 8, 2002
1:10 p.m. ET	Jury begins deliberating. After two months of testimony, the capital murder trial of David Westerfield is in the hands of the jurors, who began their deliberations following more than two days of closing arguments.
2:50 p.m.	Jury sends a note to the judge.
3:00 p.m.	Jury at lunch.
4:30 p.m.	Judge calls the lawyers but not the public or the press into the courtroom.
5:15 p.m.	Judge says jurors sent note asking to deliberate five days a week instead of having Friday off and he approved their request.
7:00 p.m.	Jury goes home for the day. Will return Friday morning.

[John Jamieson]

"The anime was looked at about every two weeks"

Do you have a source for that claim? or is it BS?

[Rheo]

Do we know how many requests for read-backs there have been so far?

[John Jamieson]

I'll take Wednesday the 21st.....NOT GUILTY.

[Mrs.Liberty]

Here you go.........

[small_l_libertarian]

If that's one of those things where the jury gets called back into the courtroom and we all know about it, I don't believe there have been any yet.

If it isn't something we would all know about, I have no idea.

Wow, that post made a whole lotta sense. Maybe I should have another cup of coffee.

[gigi]

Feldman said it in his closing statement. Does anyone else remember it? I'll find it and post , if you want.

[small_l_libertarian]

Hey, that's beautiful! May I save it to use as my signature?

[John Jamieson]

Possible, but I sure don't remember it. Seems like a strange thing for Feldman to say.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

No one could convince me to vote guilty now, no matter how strongly they felt about it, because I have reasonable doubt.

I couldn't be persuaded to vote guilty either. I would have felt that way regardless. BUT, if I been told by Dusek that I better reconsider my judgment if the majority disagreed, I wouldn't budge for anything.

That was the most insulting, condescending thing for him to do. I was appalled.

[gigi]

I forgot to say Not guilty.

So I say 8/20/02. Not Guilty.

I have posted before that I think the verdict will be guilty. But if the deliberations go long, I'm pretty confident of a not guilty verdict.

[Mrs.Liberty]

lol...sure! let me know if you need it smaller, different colors, etc.

[small_l_libertarian]

He's sick. Seriously, I think that to lie, bend the truth, twist (innocent) statements, twist the words of the law (jury instructions) just to get a win (especially if your winning means a man is going to die) is the very definition of evil. Or wicked. Isn't that bearing false witness or something? It's just something I can't even comprehend.

I mean, if you're so sure you have the right guy, don't you have some actual EVIDENCE you could present instead of putting on a disgusting sideshow for the jury? If you're so sure of your facts, why do you have to misrepresent to the jury what they're supposed to do in the jury room?

I completely agree - if he told me to get off the fence and join the mob, I'd tell him to bite me. He'd never get any cooperation from me, no way, no how.

[small_l_libertarian]

No, it's just right. I'll add it to my VD thread posts from now on. Thank you again!



I HATE DUSEK graphic courtesy of Mrs.Liberty

:-)

[shezza]

Ping! Summons for "jury duty" in five minutes.

[Krodg]

The part that really got to me was him saying he didn't have to prove how it happened. I'd be thinking, 'Uh Oh, he can't prove it!!'

[shezza]

Yup...that's one of those "because I said so" statements.

[shezza]

For the Ping List and anyone who wants to join in:
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Lord, grant these twelve jurors great wisdom to understand all the testimony they have heard over the past two months, and the clarity of mind to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Give them strength to endure, and fill them with a sense of honor and integrity, and the desire to do what is right.

May You shine the light of truth into the darkness of their confusion, that the jurors will discern honesty from those who bear false witness against their neighbor.

Although You say, "Vengeance is Mine," may You see fit to allow justice for Danielle here on this earth, that her death may not lead to the death of other innocents.

We pray that truth will prevail, and that the sword of justice will weigh heavily on those who would use it falsely to bring glory to themselves.

May Your will be done, in Jesus name.

Amen.

Pray for strength and guidance for all of the friends and families involved in this ordeal.

[Krodg]

Amen

[small_l_libertarian]

After reading some FReeper comments after Dusek said he didn't have to prove how it happened (WHAT?!?), I have come to the conclusion that he HAD to say it or definitely lose, because if they don't believe the kidnapping part, they can't move on to the murder part. JMO.

[Krodg]

If he wanted to prove the kidnapping, he should have come up with a scenario that at least sounded sane.